Most Punchable Character?
What character do you wish you could Renegade it up and punch them right in their stupid face? and why?
Probably the obvious choice but gotta be Tann for me, He's smug, so full of himself and just...
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@Nykara360 wrote:
Andromeda really needs a better option tha exhile too. Who wants to inflict all those * on the rest of the galaxy?
Time for a prison I think.
Not when you aren't sure you can feed your own people you wouldn't. Really, the choice should be being exiled or an airlock. The fact they mention prison for some people would be pretty laughable if you were looking down the barrel of running out of food and air.
Interesting social/moral question.
I'll set aside how they managed to let so many dysfunctional colonists into the program, and instead ask...
Is it right to release murderers on the galaxy you've just arrived in, basically returned to the wild to prey on the locals and be someone elses problem, or find a way to imprison them, or airlock the lot of them? I don't think any of these are good answers, really.
@TeahouseFox wrote:
Interesting social/moral question.
I'll set aside how they managed to let so many dysfunctional colonists into the program, and instead ask...
Is it right to release murderers on the galaxy you've just arrived in, basically returned to the wild to prey on the locals and be someone elses problem, or find a way to imprison them, or airlock the lot of them? I don't think any of these are good answers, really.
This assumes that the Initiative knew when they sent out the first exiles that there was any aliens to talk to (other than the Kett that are trying to murder you). The fact that they have a semi-viable option in Kadara and Eladaan is pretty much pure luck.
For me it would definitely have to be Director Tann... for someone trying to bring the prominent species of the Milky Way to a new galaxy, its pretty asinine that he's very forward about his racism to Krogans. I'm surprised he was in line to be a director...did they not put these candidates through psych evaluations? I'm pretty sure "not particular fond of an entire race" would be a disqualifying factor.
After him, SAM. He's basically Navi, only an AI supercomputer embedded into your very being instead of a floating fairy. Sure, SAM. Tell me again about how I can find minerals. Its not like we've done this dozens of times before. Just swap out "Hey! Listen!" with "Pathfinder..." and you pretty much have a robo-fairy your dad slipped into your ear while you begged for oxygen.
Side mission on Eleeden(Krogan colony world) if you scan some of the Scavengers..
It offers an explanation on the cause of so many morally corrupt people being part of the initiative.
SpoilerYou basically find out that the chemical balance in scavengers of the planet is off and maybe is a result of long term stasis, but unknown at this time. Lexi offers a cure which you can get one of the scavengers to take if you persuade him too, which is supposed to cure him of this.Also as a note, with the unknown benefactor with unknown motives and resources, it is also possible the Initiative personnel was subverted or sabotaged in some way to include many of these kind of people.
Now on to the idea about is it right to release them, at the point in time when they boot them off, there is NO known livable planet for them to go to, and no way or means to house them in a prison of any sort. So basically kicking them off was intended to be an almost certain death sentence and it was only by luck and hard work of the Exiles that they survived. As far as air locking them goes, that would have caused them to fight harder and likely bred even more trouble long term as people wake up, and learn their relatives and loved ones were spaced.....
@mcsupersport wrote:
Side mission on Eleeden(Krogan colony world) if you scan some of the Scavengers..
It offers an explanation on the cause of so many morally corrupt people being part of the initiative.
SpoilerYou basically find out that the chemical balance in scavengers of the planet is off and maybe is a result of long term stasis, but unknown at this time. Lexi offers a cure which you can get one of the scavengers to take if you persuade him too, which is supposed to cure him of this.Also as a note, with the unknown benefactor with unknown motives and resources, it is also possible the Initiative personnel was subverted or sabotaged in some way to include many of these kind of people.
Now on to the idea about is it right to release them, at the point in time when they boot them off, there is NO known livable planet for them to go to, and no way or means to house them in a prison of any sort. So basically kicking them off was intended to be an almost certain death sentence and it was only by luck and hard work of the Exiles that they survived. As far as air locking them goes, that would have caused them to fight harder and likely bred even more trouble long term as people wake up, and learn their relatives and loved ones were spaced.....
Ah, yes I remember that mission. Seems like it should have been more highlighted? That could be developed into a major plot point going forward, if it doesnt take hold.
As for exile vs airlock, I dunno - exile gives up resources, and if a death sentence (which for some it still turns out to be, since Kadara is not exactly Club Med) you'll still deal with upset people coming out of stasis to find autie, brother, dad or whoever got sent off in an escape pod to maybe find a planet where the atmosphere doesn't kill them outright.
Some of the crew actually discuss at different times how many bad apples ended up in the initiative. That they should not have passed the screening process.
I think that secret collective area that you find isn't meant to be found. Or it is a mission that never triggered. There is a name associated with it. You never see this name until after the Sloane/Reyes pick. If you go back and look at Reyes, terminal/data pad, forgot what it is, it says he is to talk to this person. Think it starts with a L. This L person is who is responsible, maybe one of the dead body, don't remember in that secrect collective area.
The room with the dead bodies in cages was the cannibal crew. It is close to the secret collective area and one of the first side quests given to us on Kadara but it is not the Collective. Sloane's guy threw out someone who paid...
- Yeah, no...the cannibals were not this area. I know the one you are talking about, but this is not the same location. I did find the cannibal location early on. This is deeper into the map near the location of a salarian who dies in a fall getting ore samples (separate mission obtained from a salarian in the bar in Kadara and a nearby datapad).
For me it's probably still Sloane. Just a tad too smug for my liking, though I can completely understand a lot of the reasonings people here have for various others.
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