We aren't arguing, we are discussing. There is a massive difference and let's all try to be respectful to one another (for the most part we are). I have tried many of those weapons (I don't own the disciple) and for the most part I find them to be a bit lacking. The viper is ok but that's about it for me. If most weapons are *, that makes enemies feel like bullet sponges, buffing a good amount of guns would alleviate that, if that helps since you agree guns are for the most part under powered. They may not actually be designed to be bullet sponges, but under powered weapons make them feel that. I did play a match with my avenger with a booster and ammo power and it felt good, I just wish that wasn't required to make the Avenger good in silver.
I did learn very early on that vanguard punching stuff was viable, but I really just do not enjoy that play style and won't play it solely. I play it every now and then but it gets stale, I like to switch it up. Unfortunately that and sniping with the vanquisher are the only viable (viable in terms of seeming like a reasonable challenge. I know that more things are "viable" but just not all that satisfying) play styles. I'm for a blackout, but will not pull my support from bioware. I have been playing ME3 a lot and have high hopes that bioware will pull some great balance changes out for us coming within the next two months! It's just not for me atm, my singleplayer experience left a very poor taste in my mouth with the numerous quest bugs I don't play it often, I know they are fixed now and much better but I just gotta get myself back into it. Thank you everyone for discussing this! This is what forums and communities are for, getting ideas out there and showing that we care in our own ways. I'm sure coming soon the game will be good and fun for all us, just some of us will wait for patches.
