"...1) has to be someone currently in Andromeda. so it will not be not TIM, not the citadel council, not the shadow broker, not anyone in the Milky Way during ME2/ME3...."
I don't see how this condition eliminates the original shadow broker whom we've never seen, only heard of. Because someone claimed they're dead? Because I've learned from many a fiction, don't believe that until you see a body... and even then...
@PretzleMe wrote:
"...1) has to be someone currently in Andromeda. so it will not be not TIM, not the citadel council, not the shadow broker, not anyone in the Milky Way during ME2/ME3...."
I don't see how this condition eliminates the original shadow broker whom we've never seen, only heard of. Because someone claimed they're dead? Because I've learned from many a fiction, don't believe that until you see a body... and even then...
@PretzleMe
I was referring to the Yahg, why would I refer to someone I havent seen before lol. Are you referring to the one before the Yahg? As far as I am concerned anyone whom we have not met in ME1 ME2 or ME3 is considered new in my books, and is welcomed to andromeda as the benefactor. However, if you are talking about the one before the Yahg, Liara mentioned that he took the Yahg as a pet and the Yahg killed him, when she mentioned this the Yahg did not dispute her claim but was irate, which strongly implied that Liara's assumption is correct. Whilst there is still a possibility, that the Yahg was triggered by something else, the probability of it happening is low. Putting myself in Bioware's shoes, would it not be easier for me to create someone new and interesting and sell that character rather than to now go back and explain oh actually the yahg didnt kill him. liara just assumed and the yahg just got mad cause she's silly and smug. LOL I am fine with the one before the one before the Yahg though, could be krogan or asari that lived a long life.
Attached video watch from the 32min mark. Anyway am migrating back to the milky way, visiting my old friends on the normandy 😃
I didn't know who you were referring to given, to our knowledge, there have been 3 Shadow Brokers. It's not like even the most logical among us are being logical 100% of the time and or don't make mistakes so it was possible that you were talking about the previous broker or even the actual current one since you were eliminating them as a possibility.
But thank you for clarifying.
@Nykara360 wrote:
Ohhh what about Udina? Guy always was shadey af, maybe didn't count on getting dead before the final arc departed.
Didn't he die during ME3? So he definitely didn't leave.
@VladVonCastein wrote:
However, if you are talking about the one before the Yahg, Liara mentioned that he took the Yahg as a pet and the Yahg killed him, when she mentioned this the Yahg did not dispute her claim but was irate, which strongly implied that Liara's assumption is correct.
Or at least strongly implied that the Yahg took objection to being called a pet. I know my Shepard would respond about the same if the roles were reversed, as I am no one's pet.
@arthurh3535 wrote:
@Nykara360 wrote:
Ohhh what about Udina? Guy always was shadey af, maybe didn't count on getting dead before the final arc departed.
Didn't he die during ME3? So he definitely didn't leave.
It hasnt been established yet when the quarrian arc actually left - which would be why I said he didn't count on getting dead before the final arc departed.
Anyway am currently replaying ME3 and found that the way councilor tevos pronounced the word "Monumental" is almost the same as the way the Benefactor pronounced it. Gave me chills but I quickly remembered it's not possible for Tevos to be the benefactor, she was still in the milky way during ME3 and the benefactor is physically in Andromeda. Logic prevails. Oh for those of you who havent saw the datapad about the benefactor in the kett base(where moshae is held) I will post it here again.
@VladVonCastein wrote:
Anyway am currently replaying ME3 and found that the way councilor tevos pronounced the word "Monumental" is almost the same as the way the Benefactor pronounced it. Gave me chills but I quickly remembered it's not possible for Tevos to be the benefactor, she was still in the milky way during ME3 and the benefactor is physically in Andromeda. Logic prevails. Oh for those of you who havent saw the datapad about the benefactor in the kett base(where moshae is held) I will post it here again.
Where does it say that the benefactor is in Andromeda?
assuming that the message is from the same benefactor, the note itself says so.
@CasperTheLich wrote:
assuming that the message is from the same benefactor, the note itself says so.
LoL I was thinking about that too, wondering if it is perhaps someone who did the sender of the note a favour and it's a generic benefactor rather than The Benefactor... But I think not... Though I dont think too highly of the current batch of MEA writers, I dont think they are this lame lol.
@VladVonCastein wrote:
@CasperTheLich wrote:
assuming that the message is from the same benefactor, the note itself says so.
LoL I was thinking about that too, wondering if it is perhaps someone who did the sender of the note a favour and it's a generic benefactor rather than The Benefactor... But I think not... Though I dont think too highly of the current batch of MEA writers, I dont think they are this lame lol.
Actually, given that the note (found in a Kett Exultation base) references Eos, it is probably referring to the Kett boss there. When you find some of his recordings it turns out that he's basically trying to set up a coup and take over from Archon. This being the case, ensuring the loyalty of some of his supporters by getting them promoted into one of the major Kett production facilities where they can influence the loyalty of the new troops just makes sense. In addition the benefactor reference makes sense based on his recruitment material
As for Initiative Benefactor speculations, they don't have to be there in person just yet if they have 1 or more loyal agents laying the groundwork. In fact, they might consider it a good idea to wait to arrive until a foothold was established. Or until the whole thing was coming apart at the seams and they could show up as heroes and save the day...
Holy *! Just had a thought. I know that at least for a while there was speculation that Cora was TIM's daughter, and possibly the most powerful human biotic (which would explain so much about Jack and the whole Subject Zero project). She is the officially designated successor to the Human Pathfinder, attached to the only cryo-transport that made it to Andromeda with only minor cosmetic damage essentially (including the Nexus), and Alec Ryder (like Jian Garson) was probably not going to survive entry to Andromeda anyway, possibly why his hugely underqualified kids made pathfinder team.
TIM knows that the Reapers are coming and loves both his daughter and redundant backup plans, thus he moves to get her and a good chunk of humanity out of the way in case his war with the Reapers fails. The mission is planned so that humanity will come out of first contact with Andromeda as top dog, all the other races having become weakened and desperate, and Cora nominally running the show, having saved the day for everyone.
This becomes more reasonable if it is assumed that the scourge was a known factor pre-launch, so it could be used to cripple the other vessels and cause strategic damage and casualties. If you know that a certain part of the Nexus is going to get taken out it makes it easier to hide the fact that you removed most of the elite ships, personnel, and gear that all conveniently happened to be stored there, leaving just enough for the human pathfinder's use. And, if all else fails, the Benefactor now has a secret, well-stocked base of operations and several elite stealth vessels to fall back on.
@fudgietroll wrote:
@VladVonCastein wrote:
@CasperTheLich wrote:
assuming that the message is from the same benefactor, the note itself says so.
LoL I was thinking about that too, wondering if it is perhaps someone who did the sender of the note a favour and it's a generic benefactor rather than The Benefactor... But I think not... Though I dont think too highly of the current batch of MEA writers, I dont think they are this lame lol.
Actually, given that the note (found in a Kett Exultation base) references Eos, it is probably referring to the Kett boss there. When you find some of his recordings it turns out that he's basically trying to set up a coup and take over from Archon. This being the case, ensuring the loyalty of some of his supporters by getting them promoted into one of the major Kett production facilities where they can influence the loyalty of the new troops just makes sense. In addition the benefactor reference makes sense based on his recruitment material
Well like I said, if this is indeed the case, then think Bioware writers are really lame. Reyes for example is pretty illusive in his dealings, can you imagine finding a note saying dear illusive man(referring to reyes, rather than using Charlatan) and not referring to TIM?
