So What Does Ryder Have That Others Do Not?
I didn't know what to title this to be honest or how to organize my thoughts so I'll just start with the straw that made me want to ask this kind of question.
Near the beginning of the game, they ...
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I guess I shouldn't have joked around so much in my post, lol. Would have made it less confusing but that is basically what I was saying SAM did when I said these this:
PretzleMe wrote: they just aren't merged with SAM the way I am (kind of makes you have to wonder if Papa Ryder died because of a lack of air or because he tore SAM out and gave it to you) so aside from making it possible for me to use the bathroom while cloaked and from greater distances, SAM theoretically can feed other people data the way he feeds it to me.
So the question remains, outside of augmenting you, what else is there (if anything) to where you're asked to repair things near the beginning of the game?
If there was nothing that logically made you more suited for helping in that situation (especially since you weren't even a Pathfinder yet) are there other tasks that you're asked to do that really shouldn't need your attention?
Coincidently, only you had a scan at that time! And you were the nearest person to the console. 😛 But I suspect that scans are not that common either. Ryder has come out as a Recon Specialist. It might be something particular to his position.
Regarding the spoiler:
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Other implants of other SAMs still had no knowledge, or the same knowledge and experience our SAM has. On a note, anyone from the Hyperion wtih a SAM implant could be taken hostage. But given only Sarah seemed unprotected, the rest is all huddled with you in the Tempest ... the Archon went for her. Or maybe he just wanted to be dramatic and hit where it hurts.
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Why would I had been the only one with a scanner at the time, especially if Ryder isn't the only one with the Omni-Tool? And I wasn't the closest to the console. Lol, I was standing in the doorway and when I found the issue I was behind everyone.
But given the job these people have, I'd suspect they would have to have scanners as a diagnostic tool at the very least. I could have sworn that on the Nexus, two of the people that seem to have similar jobs (Raj and Zarah) and I thought they had been scanning.
Just doesn't seem right that Omni-Tools would be abundant but scanning would be in short supply especially among those that need to repair things.
On the other thing, I could see that. You were the apple of the Achon's eye after all. Why wouldn't he be dramatic? Makes sense.
As far as your SAMmy having more information than others, they're all linked to the same SAM... well except the other races that came from other arks.
Other than that, SAM is samming it up for the entire Nexus from what I could tell though he primarily resides in his node so other than making it so you can dunk on rims that are taller than regulation, everyone with a link to SAM would be drawing from the same knowledge base in theory.
But I do believe that ultimately, you being the focus for him at some point would be the main reason the Archon makes that decision.
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There are also the memories. Possibly, the Archon only knew Sarah from all others to have such implant. He might not even know there were other pathfinders.
I still think we should be able to sever his head and make a shrunken head memento to attach to our chesplate for future reference.
@PandaTar wrote:
I still think we should be able to sever his head and make a shrunken head memento to attach to our chesplate for future reference.
Maybe you just didnt see what Drack was doing in the background, the guys probably having a field day! think of the bones he could collect!! hehhehehee....
Omni tools still need programs to work - and we are not talking about military-grade omni tools like Shepard or Ryder. The fact people are using omni tools does not necessarily mean that they have scanner application or know how to use it.
Hyperion has just arrived to Andromeda, only limited number of people is awaken, they are under-equipped at that time, and probably those in the room are more in terms of *civilian* operators rather than actual technicians (let's say: true technicians are busy with routine checks and computer analysis on the bridge, machine rooms, computer junctions, or whatever). Ryder on the other hand is a part of Pathfinder's team, well educated and skilled in combat, techs, and biotics. He or she is well equipped for the task, as scanning is what he or she is expected and trained to do. All the programs are already on his or her omni tool.
When issue occurs operators are immediately aware that it is dangerous and needs immediate fix, but they are not necessarily aware how to fix it *quickly*. A lot of systems (like diagnostic systems) are still not functional, true technicians are far away, and the Scourge encounter surprises all of them. There is no time to check manual.
Cora is more in terms of a military and tactical XO than a specialist, and thus she immediately recognizes that Ryder is their best choice. The issue is prompyly identified with the help of Ryder's scanner indeed, and while operators are probably able to fix it, they had *not* seen the problem with their own eyes, and thus it makes Ryder better suited to act.
...of course all the above is just an unimportant banter, since the very idea of the whole scene is to show new players how to use scanner and how to interact with objects - nothing more, nothing less. The "quest" is aimed as a tutorial, and never intended to make much more sense than: "Brave adventurers, there are dire rats in my cellar, and even though I have 8 bouncers in my inn, and rat catcher on a contract, could You PLEASE help me to clear my cellar of those FIENDS?"
As far as Archon is concerned... Well, it is Alec Ryder and then protagonist Ryder that ultimately compromised Ram-tech, so it makes sense to assume that it is family thing. Only Ryders managed to actually reset those vaults, right?
Sorry for sounding like a jaded old man(maybe cause I am hehe)... Looking at it objectively, it's cause you are the guy playing the game and it's another fetch quest lol... Just like Liam telling you to go download some movie when he's standing 5 feet away chatting with some security gal. Or later on, having a drink in the bar whilst he pushes the responsibility to ryder. I dont think you need pathfinder access to download a vid. (oops almost forgot the spoiler tag... let me cut and paste this)
SpoilerIt's your sibling cause the story wants you to feel something significant, a little desperation, a little heartache but in my opinion fails miserably cause there wasnt exactly a bond form during the series, sibling is in coma. It would be very different if Liara, Garrus or Tali got captured and tortured and Shepard needs to rush to aid them. Think they played this card a little too soon.. Also doesnt make much sense that the Hyperion was captured by the Kett and the nexus is ok. Guess they just needed the hyperion to crash land so that humanity conveniently gets to inherit Meridian.- Approved
Stop being a jaded old man! Lol, I'm kidding.
But of course there's the fact that you're the player and that explains why when things are left to chance they go a certain way but that doesn't mean that there are not and or shouldn't be in story reasons for things.
For instance, the Archon choosing to do what he does to the person he does it to, after reading some of the comments here it actually makes sense due to the memories and due to him wishing the two of you could have something more than an adversarial relationship. Not quite love but perhaps just spending some time together and you reject that so now he wants to stick it to you badly.
And for plenty of other quests, I can see why they ask me to do it but I suppose I was wondering if there were some, any, or a lot of quests where you felt like the reliance on you made little to no sense or like things were getting out of hand.
Some Person: "Ryder, my leg fell asleep. Can you help me put my shoe on?"
Me: "Oh come on! You passed like 4 people to come over here and ask me that!"- Approved
@PretzleMe wrote:
And for plenty of other quests, I can see why they ask me to do it but I suppose I was wondering if there were some, any, or a lot of quests where you felt like the reliance on you made little to no sense or like things were getting out of hand.
Some Person: "Ryder, my leg fell asleep. Can you help me put my shoe on?"
Me: "Oh come on! You passed like 4 people to come over here and ask me that!"That could help with something regarding priorities. Like ... having a history of helping others. The more you helped, the more people would ask you to help. Maybe some quests and tasks could never trigger, if you often turned people down.
"Oh, he helped you cure the Genophage in Andromeda? Yay, perhaps he can help me developing a new medicinal rectal probe!"
or
"Ah, I head he didn't let your sister live. I won't ask him to shave my mother's legs then."
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