Spoiler: Krogan Scouts or Raeka? Why?
And as followup, how did you resolve the choice with Sarissa? I wonder if people feel differently based on the order they made these choices or made them completely separate things. I also just like ...
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@PandaTar wrote:
Is this a personal question then?
SpoilerWhen that option appeared, I actually didn't fell like something I had to ponder on. It almost felt like a no-brainer, actually.
What I saw: a whole Salarian ark under Kett threat. Needed their Pathfinder to save them.
VS
Saving Krogans and not really sure if we would be successful at saving the Salarians. I also considered that most Krogan were safe at Eladeen.
That's how I ended up choosing Raeka. And even after the bizarre tantrum from Drack, I had no regrets, even more after seeing that Krogans were that self-centered, that Drack didn't consider we were saving someone like ourselves, a Pathfinder which could help bringing order in a very much more thoroughly way than Krogan Scouts.
For me it was, but however you want to answer it is fine. Even if it just ends up as some sort of informal poll or rambling I'll be happy. 😃
I know you had to do the Cora loyalty mission. In what order did you do these two, do you think they kinda morally tie together or not, did the way you went in one make deciding the other easier/harder?
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Raeka every single playthrough. Why?
1) She's a pathfinder, she saved my squad(didnt know this my first playthrough, but now I do, she's an awesome person), vs the krogan scout whom you never met, it's like the staff of your friend.... One of the easier decisions for me.
2) Continuity, if MEA2 does get done and I am still around to play it, then Raeka should be an important part of MEA2, either as a pathfinder or ambassador.
3) Have you seen the Salarian pilot dude that takes over from her if she dies? And they call Ryder Tann's lapdog... That guy's practically indoctrinated by Tann'
Sarissa every playthrough. Reasons:
1) She destroyed a Kett ship with biotics...
2) She destroyed a kett ship with biotics...
3) She destroyed a kett ship with biotics....
Seriously that was the most powerful thing shown in the entire MEA and I am not about to kick her off the team... I cant even remember if I have seen something this awesome in terms of biotic power in the original trilogy.... Samara(I chose her) had a little shield on in ME2 final battle and she was panting away at the end... Also what she did wasn't malicious, it was a call, I felt the call was the right one. Ark v pathfinder... Ark should be the right choice... She did try to cover it up, but hey... if you screwed up at work today and you may lose your job if you dont cover it up, would you?
Whilst the other Rookie gal was learning how to BREATHE...
I will go hug Cora and she will get over it.
1) She's a pathfinder, she saved my squad(didnt know this my first playthrough, but now I do, she's an awesome person), vs the krogan scout whom you never met, it's like the staff of your friend.... One of the easier decisions for me.
2) Continuity, if MEA2 does get done and I am still around to play it, then Raeka should be an important part of MEA2, either as a pathfinder or ambassador.
3) Have you seen the Salarian pilot dude that takes over from her if she dies? And they call Ryder Tann's lapdog... That guy's practically indoctrinated by Tann'
Sarissa every playthrough. Reasons:
1) She destroyed a Kett ship with biotics...
2) She destroyed a kett ship with biotics...
3) She destroyed a kett ship with biotics....
Seriously that was the most powerful thing shown in the entire MEA and I am not about to kick her off the team... I cant even remember if I have seen something this awesome in terms of biotic power in the original trilogy.... Samara(I chose her) had a little shield on in ME2 final battle and she was panting away at the end... Also what she did wasn't malicious, it was a call, I felt the call was the right one. Ark v pathfinder... Ark should be the right choice... She did try to cover it up, but hey... if you screwed up at work today and you may lose your job if you dont cover it up, would you?
Whilst the other Rookie gal was learning how to BREATHE...
I will go hug Cora and she will get over it.
@VladVonCastein wrote:
SpoilerRaeka every single playthrough. Why?
1) She's a pathfinder, she saved my squad(didnt know this my first playthrough, but now I do, she's an awesome person), vs the krogan scout whom you never met, it's like the staff of your friend.... One of the easier decisions for me.
2) Continuity, if MEA2 does get done and I am still around to play it, then Raeka should be an important part of MEA2, either as a pathfinder or ambassador.
3) Have you seen the Salarian pilot dude that takes over from her if she dies? And they call Ryder Tann's lapdog... That guy's practically indoctrinated by Tann'
Sarissa every playthrough. Reasons:
1) She destroyed a Kett ship with biotics...
2) She destroyed a kett ship with biotics...
3) She destroyed a kett ship with biotics....
Seriously that was the most powerful thing shown in the entire MEA and I am not about to kick her off the team... I cant even remember if I have seen something this awesome in terms of biotic power in the original trilogy.... Samara(I chose her) had a little shield on in ME2 final battle and she was panting away at the end... Also what she did wasn't malicious, it was a call, I felt the call was the right one. Ark v pathfinder... Ark should be the right choice... She did try to cover it up, but hey... if you screwed up at work today and you may lose your job if you dont cover it up, would you?
Whilst the other Rookie gal was learning how to BREATHE...
I will go hug Cora and she will get over it.Three pretty good reasons. 🙂
My personal dilemma was how do I pick that and not break my second? 😃
Between Raeka and the Krogren? I don't think ME:A presented that decision very well to begin with. There are plenty of reasons to rescue Raeka. She's already, in the span of about 40 minutes, proved to be a vitally useful ally and a good leader (something the initiative is sorely lacking). But why should I rescue the Krogen? Because they're Krogen and I should feel sorry for them...for being Krogen? I'm sorry but assuming that the Krogen deserve to be saved more than the Salarians is straight up species-ist. I know nothing about the Krogen scouts. I don't know if they're useful or deserve mercy for some specific reason. In fact, choosing to save the Salarians, I would argue, is the objectively smarter decision n terms of hindering the Kett. By the time we get to the flagship they've already started corrupting Krogen biology, let's not give them too much of a head start on Salarians. Like I said the game simply didn't present the decisions well enough to make me feel like saving the Krogen scouts was at all a worth while choice.
Now between Sarissa and Vederia? Power is great and all but Sarissa proved that she can't be trusted. I fully agree with the decision she made and her reasons for making it, but that's not the problem.
She lied about it.
A lie of omission is still a lie. One of the most important aspects of a good leader is the willingness to commit to your decisions and stand by them even in the face of scrutiny and disagreement. Had she done this I would have sided with her wholeheartedly, some times the best decisions are the hardest ones to make, but instead she took the cowards route. Her decision may have been very beneficial to us but we're not choosing whether or not she gets a pat on the head, we're deciding whether or not she's worthy of one of the highest and most powerful leadership positions held by anyone in the initiative.
I promise you, putting your faith in a liar will come back to bite you.
Vederia, despite her inexperience, showed great courage in the face of adversity and a willingness to try and make the situation better for everyone involved. Who did we find out in the dangerous part of the ship trying to get systems back up and running? Certainly not our powerful pathfinder Sarissa, but an inexperienced rookie. Sarissa only showed up after all the real fighting had ended to show off her biotics. Theoretically a bioticly inclined Ryder or other sqaudmate could have jumped in and done the same thing.
I guess it depends on how you look at erm Kettification.
In game being turned into a Kett is a big thing and considered a fate worse than death.
So would you save a bunch of Krogan scouts that are about to suffer that fate and let Raeka die a hero's death?
Or do you save Raeka and let the Krogan suffer a fate worse than death?
I agree it wasn't that well presented particularly on a first playthrough but that's the moral choice behind it.
Your binary choice ignores the innocent civilian Salarians.
Varzin wrote:
Between Raeka and the Krogren? I don't think ME:A presented that decision very well to begin with. There are plenty of reasons to rescue Raeka. She's already, in the span of about 40 minutes, proved to be a vitally useful ally and a good leader (something the initiative is sorely lacking). But why should I rescue the Krogen? Because they're Krogen and I should feel sorry for them...for being Krogen? I'm sorry but assuming that the Krogen deserve to be saved more than the Salarians is straight up species-ist. I know nothing about the Krogen scouts. I don't know if they're useful or deserve mercy for some specific reason. In fact, choosing to save the Salarians, I would argue, is the objectively smarter decision n terms of hindering the Kett. By the time we get to the flagship they've already started corrupting Krogen biology, let's not give them too much of a head start on Salarians. Like I said the game simply didn't present the decisions well enough to make me feel like saving the Krogen scouts was at all a worth while choice.
I just kind of assume that since the Kett have experimented on 1-5 THOUSAND Salariens they have probably gotten what they needed, while they've experimented on maybe a dozen Krogan and still have work to do. Plus in that giant room filled with lots of tanks of experimentees (that I really wish I could have blown up on the way out) only 1 is a krogan, so who do you think the rest are? Finally, it's not fair for the Salariens to be the only ones with an original pathfinder, and, besides, if Raeka gets Kettified we have the potential for a really interesting story/questline, possibly including the Kett who have remembered who they were (reminds me of a Tom Swift III book)
Now between Sarissa and Vederia? Power is great and all but Sarissa proved that she can't be trusted. I fully agree with the decision she made and her reasons for making it, but that's not the problem.
She lied about it.
A lie of omission is still a lie. One of the most important aspects of a good leader is the willingness to commit to your decisions and stand by them even in the face of scrutiny and disagreement. Had she done this I would have sided with her wholeheartedly, some times the best decisions are the hardest ones to make, but instead she took the cowards route. Her decision may have been very beneficial to us but we're not choosing whether or not she gets a pat on the head, we're deciding whether or not she's worthy of one of the highest and most powerful leadership positions held by anyone in the initiative.
I promise you, putting your faith in a liar will come back to bite you.
Vederia, despite her inexperience, showed great courage in the face of adversity and a willingness to try and make the situation better for everyone involved. Who did we find out in the dangerous part of the ship trying to get systems back up and running? Certainly not our powerful pathfinder Sarissa, but an inexperienced rookie. Sarissa only showed up after all the real fighting had ended to show off her biotics. Theoretically a bioticly inclined Ryder or other sqaudmate could have jumped in and done the same thing.
I really hope that with that stated viewpoint you picked Sloane🙂
Deciding whether to keep Sarissa or not is a tough decision, but at least either way Cora stops hero worshipping her and begins to grow as a person, and the Initiative and Resistance pick up information of tremendous military value (enemy transit and supply lines always are)
Cora is a super biotic (Jack level or higher) and was still playing second fiddle to Sarissa, so I don't think just anyone could have pulled this off.
Just a thought, could Matriarch Ishara come back, possibly as a nemesis or Kett?
