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I can understand her being a little cranky with me about dealing with the Kett - after being tortured for who knows how long and learning that the Kett are zombified Angara. She also has really no idea who I am or what I want/am doing (and why) at that point. Drack is just as big of a fill-in-the-blank when I don't do what he wants with exhaltation... and he knows me.
I did, basically, just rescue her because I had to - and to get her to do something for me. We all probably would have done so anyways but... that's why we're there.
Torture me and turn my people into zombies and I'm probably going to go all "give no quarter" too. 🙂
she likely viewed it as saving a few resistance fighters now, vs saving all the angara that were going to be turned into kett during the base's operational lifespan. doesn't make a lot of sense, but how many traumatized people actually make sense at any given time?
- 9 years ago
Another arrogant ingrate as far as I am concerned. Regardless of her intellect & position, being saved after being captured and tortured for a long period of time and Ryder saves her, first thing she did was to give him attitude "Oh I feel for your people as you clearly do not feel for mine". Next thing you know she's going "Oh Akksul!". One of the reasons she will never be ambassador in my game.
- 9 years ago
@CasperTheLich wrote:
she likely viewed it as saving a few resistance fighters now, vs saving all the angara that were going to be turned into kett during the base's operational lifespan. doesn't make a lot of sense, but how many traumatized people actually make sense at any given time?
Actually, she specifically said she wanted the facility destroyed, even if it meant her own death *and* disregarded Jaal when he mentions that not only are their soldiers, but their techs and scientists, too.
- Anonymous9 years ago
@CasperTheLich wrote:
she likely viewed it as saving a few resistance fighters now, vs saving all the angara that were going to be turned into kett during the base's operational lifespan. doesn't make a lot of sense, but how many traumatized people actually make sense at any given time?
I am curious, how come you don't think her point of view of thinking the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
I have never decided to detonate the base personally so I disagree with her, but I personally felt like she was making total sense. Why do you think she wasn't?
- Anonymous9 years ago
two things, the assumption that bases elsewhere wouldn't pick up the slack, or that additional bases would not be constructed or converted. in my opinion destroying the base wouldn't have spared more people form exaltation, might have even sped it up.
and second, under my original assumption above, you'd be spending more angaran lives for basically nothing. or at best a short reprieve.
but, that's just how i see the situation.
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i guess i should also note that we're never told if there are more than one single exaltation facility, i think logically if exaltation is so vital to the kett's existence, and they've got the capacity to create enough kett to keep the war-effort moving, there has to much more then just that one, there have to be several, i'd even bet there's several such facilities on voeld itself. though i've got no proof, just logic, common sense, and my eyes.
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if you're asking why the kett cardinal was pleading so seriously, and willing to make a bargain? it's simple psychology. to me it seems the facility is like some kind of religious temple, as well as an exaltation compound. she's pleading because the structure itself has religious significance. like a mosque, church, or a cathedral.
- Anonymous9 years ago
@CasperTheLich wrote:
two things, the assumption that bases elsewhere wouldn't pick up the slack, or that additional bases would not be constructed or converted. in my opinion destroying the base wouldn't have spared more people form exaltation, might have even sped it up.
and second, under my original assumption above, you'd be spending more angaran lives for basically nothing. or at best a short reprieve.
but, that's just how i see the situation.
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i guess i should also note that we're never told if there are more than one single exaltation facility, i think logically if exaltation is so vital to the kett's existence, and they've got the capacity to create enough kett to keep the war-effort moving, there has to much more then just that one, there have to be several, i'd even bet there's several such facilities on voeld itself. though i've got no proof, just logic, common sense, and my eyes.
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if you're asking why the kett cardinal was pleading so seriously, and willing to make a bargain? it's simple psychology. to me it seems the facility is like some kind of religious temple, as well as an exaltation compound. she's pleading because the structure itself has religious significance. like a mosque, church, or a cathedral.
Hmm, I never thought about it that way. Thanks.
- 9 years ago
@PretzleMe wrote:I am curious, how come you don't think her point of view of thinking the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few?
The question is do the Angara need the facility destroyed more or do they need a bunch of their best soldiers, scientists, etc. more. Either way, needs of the many vs future gain/loss.
Also, somewhere prior to the assault on the exaltation facility it is mentioned that there are several facilities and the Angara leave them alone because they have never successfully attacked one, and they have taken a lot of losses trying