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iL0veHelen's avatar
9 years ago

Why do you break the lore of mass effect universe?

Darla vas Gyperion. This character is just nonsense.
There was no embassy in the migratory fleet аnd it could not be. Especially 10 years.This was talked about and games and books. So why the hell?

And the Krogans. How could Urdnorth Rex allow such a large number of fertile women to fly to another galaxy?This is ridiculous.

We need an explanation. As an option, the processing of dialogues.

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  • EgoMania's avatar
    EgoMania
    Seasoned Ace
    9 years ago

    Or she's a mad hatter and was just lying about it trying to be special 😉

  • arthurh3535's avatar
    arthurh3535
    9 years ago

    @universalh5 wrote:

    Not relevant, Arthurh3535 & fudgietroll. The Mass Effect universe is much more... grounded than that (if that term works, as in established or a better foundation for politics).

    But I did notice that the Darla ''von Hyperion'' character can be taken two ways:

    1. The first meeting with her, after first awaking during the epilogue and talking to her and her friends, what she say seem to suggest that she was raised strictly by quarians (which is how it is spelled, Arthurh, since the names are common nouns; no capitalizations) and that her own parents wheren't in the picture and that she meant that her quarian godparents are the diplomats within the Migrant fleet. If so, it wouldn't--as far as I can see--be lore breaking.

    2. Or, as the second meeting with her after leaving Meridian and coming back then talking to Darla when she is alone suggests, Darla arrived with her parents to the Migrant Fleet. As she says (paraphrasing) ''they were diplomats within the Migrant Fleet.'' Which does contradict the lore as even by as late as 2183 (ME1 starts here), the Systems Alliance and the Migrant Fleet have no official diplomatic relations.

    So, I guess it can be either way. Her real parents could be dead and quarians found and raised Darla - but that seems improbable, the quarians would probably turn over the human survivor instead of forcing her to be raised by aliens. One can have godparents without their true parents being dead.


    With the chiralty thing about food, I can not seen any captain letting humans stay on the fleet without them paying and providing for themselves. So my idea of 'unofficial ambassadors' to get around the Citadel laws sounds more likely.

  • universalh5's avatar
    universalh5
    9 years ago

    Captains have already, as early as in ME2, let humans live on their ships. In ME2, or before, Cerberus attacked a quarian liveship to recover a biotic(?) refugee hiding there and that is why Tali and Cerberus hates each other. Miranda talks about it when she meets Tali on Horizon and Tali first when helping her during her trial. So humans can, appearently, stay at the quarians. The thing is to figure out if they can integrate into their doctrines and be given a quarian ship name without breaking the lore.

  • arthurh3535's avatar
    arthurh3535
    9 years ago

    I just can't see any reason for it being a good 'lie'. I mean, she should have been screened and it's in her name. Lying about that and using that as her name should have gotten her rejected. OTOH, 'unofficial' ambassadors that lived on a ship.. I could see the captain extending the naming convention, especially if they've done good deeds for the fleet.

  • Vellu78's avatar
    Vellu78
    9 years ago

    Possible lore-breakage aside.

    Could just be she is of some importance if we ever get to see the Quarian ark.

    So a plot device (which often disregard game lore).

  • EgoMania's avatar
    EgoMania
    Seasoned Ace
    9 years ago

    @arthurh3535 wrote:

    I just can't see any reason for it being a good 'lie'. I mean, she should have been screened and it's in her name. Lying about that and using that as her name should have gotten her rejected. OTOH, 'unofficial' ambassadors that lived on a ship.. I could see the captain extending the naming convention, especially if they've done good deeds for the fleet.


    Who said anything about lying to the Initiative? She might just identify herself like that for whatever reason. Maybe she had some brain damage and she's now the local village idiot.

    Not saying it's the most likely scenario but who knows what could be going on here? It's not the first time a character identifies him/herself with another name than their real name in a game.

    For all we know there was something planned with her that they forgot or didn't have time for. I'm just saying there could be more than just two ways to explain this.

  • ADM-Ntek's avatar
    ADM-Ntek
    9 years ago
    what if her parents were diplomats for the initiative. the quarians live in space so they might have valuable knowledge for a mission like that. like those FTL sensors from the geth.
  • ADM-Ntek, 

    I guess it is possible by I rather don't like that possiblity, as do I doubt Bioware being capable of creating something as elaborate.

    Darla mentioned that she hadn't touched actual soil for a decade(?) and that she was given her own enviro-suit. Tali do mention that quarians life in bubbles until given their own suits, wouldnb't neccesarrily be the same with humans but... Assuming that Darla joined the quarians as 15 years old or so with her diplomatic parents in as early as 2176, her growth spurt could have ended. The Initiative was started in 2176 and then the Initative launched in 2185, that would make her born during 2160 and 25 during 2185.

    I guess there is a small chance but I have to refute that possibilty as it doesn't seem probable and overly complex. Either way, in addition to the two ways I states earlier about how the Darla ''vas Hyperion'' character can be taken, this adds a third option.

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