Why only 4 beds on the Tempest?
Like it says, why only 4 b3eds on the Tempest when you have a crew of 8? It was the same on the Normandy, never enough beds for all the crew. They can't all hot-bed it because the are always all awak...
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@ViViD_Prime wrote:Those are windows if you listen to the tempest banter vetra and i think it was cora talk about this in regards to the tempest's lack of weapons
Also if you talk to Kallo (enough times) he'll talk about the time Tempest was build. How they tested the said windows are sturdy enough involving three drunk Krogan...
Projected pr actually transparent not withstanding, a structural weakpoint still.
@Vellu78 wrote:
@ViViD_Prime wrote:Those are windows if you listen to the tempest banter vetra and i think it was cora talk about this in regards to the tempest's lack of weapons
Also if you talk to Kallo (enough times) he'll talk about the time Tempest was build. How they tested the said windows are sturdy enough involving three drunk Krogan...
Projected pr actually transparent not withstanding, a structural weakpoint still.
I think they're just echoing back to Legion and Geth Dreadnoughts n the first series. The Kett have them firing from interior bays - talk about a poorly designed armament system. Who needs pillboxes in space?
Logically there are 4 main crew members for the ship:
Suvi
Kallo
Gil
Lexie
Can't go anywhere without a doctor really.
Anyone else is not planned for. Here's the thing though. Presumably the plan wouldn't have been that Ryder does everything by him/herself. So a few extra beds really would've been in order.
I think it would've made more sense to not have the med lab where it is but above in either Jaal or Cora's room really.
@EgoMania wrote:Logically there are 4 main crew members for the ship:
Suvi
Kallo
Gil
Lexie
Can't go anywhere without a doctor really.
Anyone else is not planned for. Here's the thing though. Presumably the plan wouldn't have been that Ryder does everything by him/herself. So a few extra beds really would've been in order.
I think it would've made more sense to not have the med lab where it is but above in either Jaal or Cora's room really.
But I thought the pathfinder team much bigger - unless there's lots of implanted people running around as optional alternate crewmembers. Murphy beds would fill the gaps, but it's not like space is cramped and they couldn't fit in a bunk for everyone. This is a civilian operation - not a military warship.
(Sorry, I'm too lazy to look up their names)
Dad
Sara
Scott
Liam
Comm lady
Dead guy
PTSD guy
Wounded guy
Cora
...and then the ones for Tempest.
Harry or Lexi
Suvi
Kallo
Gil
The very first thing everyone does is stake out a bed of their own instead of sharing. Why wouldn't they plan for it?
@jpcerutti1 wrote:But I thought the pathfinder team much bigger - unless there's lots of implanted people running around as optional alternate crewmembers. Murphy beds would fill the gaps, but it's not like space is cramped and they couldn't fit in a bunk for everyone. This is a civilian operation - not a military warship.
(Sorry, I'm too lazy to look up their names)
Dad
Sara
Scott
Liam
Comm lady
Dead guy
PTSD guy
Wounded guy
Cora
...and then the ones for Tempest.
Harry or Lexi
Suvi
Kallo
Gil
Well, that's assuming they were all intended to go on the Tempest.
On top of that I'm not sure if it was intended for Alec Ryder to begin with. One question I always had is why have 1 Tempest and 4 Pathfinders?
I mean, as Ryder you basically do the job for all Pathfinders but I'm sure they didn't plan on 3 Arks needing to be rescued by the other Ark's Pathfinder. They must've planned at least on having 4 Pathfinders. So why only 1 Pathfinder ship?
there were several tempests, the scourge took out all but ryder's.
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iirc, they were destroyed when the nexus made contact with said scourge cloud, though i guess they could have tried to use them for scouting and lost them to it just as easily.
@EgoMania wrote:
@jpcerutti1 wrote:But I thought the pathfinder team much bigger - unless there's lots of implanted people running around as optional alternate crewmembers. Murphy beds would fill the gaps, but it's not like space is cramped and they couldn't fit in a bunk for everyone. This is a civilian operation - not a military warship.
(Sorry, I'm too lazy to look up their names)
Dad
Sara
Scott
Liam
Comm lady
Dead guy
PTSD guy
Wounded guy
Cora
...and then the ones for Tempest.
Harry or Lexi
Suvi
Kallo
Gil
Well, that's assuming they were all intended to go on the Tempest.
On top of that I'm not sure if it was intended for Alec Ryder to begin with. One question I always had is why have 1 Tempest and 4 Pathfinders?
I mean, as Ryder you basically do the job for all Pathfinders but I'm sure they didn't plan on 3 Arks needing to be rescued by the other Ark's Pathfinder. They must've planned at least on having 4 Pathfinders. So why only 1 Pathfinder ship?
Ryder has to bring *at least* two other implants along or you wouldn't have three for missions. Cora is *definitely* coming for theoretical SAM handoff.
I could be mistaken, but I thought I read in conversation there were more 'Tempests", but they somehow got destroyed.
@CasperTheLich wrote:there were several tempests, the scourge took out all but ryder's.
Ahh, I certainly missed that bit of information. I guess with the tv on here, I do miss things here and there. But that does explain it. It just seemed from Kallo's descriptions that there was only one made but that was just an assumption of course. But yeah, conveniently all were destroyed except one. Check.
@EgoMania wrote:I think it would've made more sense to not have the med lab where it is but above in either Jaal or Cora's room really.
The first time I read that sentence, I read in mind "not to have the meth lab". Within micro seconds, my brain was saying, "but that's the most important part of the ship". Then the working part of my brain kicked in and I read that sentence correctly. 🙂
You, @VitesseLumiere, you're the submerged guy, right? Dwells in a submarine? Then, how come 100 of you fit on your benches? You have 100 benches or you take turns on 4 as well? Or maybe no one sleeps? Stay alert until the eyes start to bleed then are sent back to the surface to patch and be sent back in?
@EgoMania wrote:I think it would've made more sense to not have the med lab where it is but above in either Jaal or Cora's room really.
Perhaps the Med bay is there cause the way to enter the tempest after a mission via the ramp would leads to where they store the Nomad. If someone is injured the med bay would be more accessible on the lower level.
@VladVonCastein wrote:
@EgoMania wrote:I think it would've made more sense to not have the med lab where it is but above in either Jaal or Cora's room really.
Perhaps the Med bay is there cause the way to enter the tempest after a mission via the ramp would leads to where they store the Nomad. If someone is injured the med bay would be more accessible on the lower level.
makes a lot of sense, actually.
@VladVonCastein wrote:
@EgoMania wrote:
I think it would've made more sense to not have the med lab where it is but above in either Jaal or Cora's room really.
Perhaps the Med bay is there cause the way to enter the tempest after a mission via the ramp would leads to where they store the Nomad. If someone is injured the med bay would be more accessible on the lower level.
Well I figured let's put the living quarters in one area with the kitchen and all. The back rooms of Vetra and Liam can be used for medbay as far as I'm concerned.That's even closer to the Nomad as well 🙂
@PandaTar, yep. Fast attack subs - the small stealthy ones that do all the cool ops, but stay underwater for 6-7 months, and are very small - didn't seem much bigger to me than the old subs you see in movies. Have about 100 crew, but everyone hot-racks. Subs run on an 18 hour day instead of a 24 hour day. 6 hours for watch. 6 hours for maintenance. 6 hours for sleep, shower, training & qualifications. So, generally 2 to 3 people to a rack, switching out each 6 hours. And the racks are the size of MRI tubes. Just had a very long spinal MRI, so I can say that for sure.
If you're on a boomer (ballistic missile submarine), those things are like floating hotels (even bulkhead doors are 3 times larger) that only stay out 3 months at a time. I've been on one, but didn't get to tour the rack space and didn't think to ask my buddy about how they hot rack, so I don't know about those.
@EgoMania wrote:
@VladVonCastein wrote:
@EgoMania wrote:
I think it would've made more sense to not have the med lab where it is but above in either Jaal or Cora's room really.
Perhaps the Med bay is there cause the way to enter the tempest after a mission via the ramp would leads to where they store the Nomad. If someone is injured the med bay would be more accessible on the lower level.
Well I figured let's put the living quarters in one area with the kitchen and all. The back rooms of Vetra and Liam can be used for medbay as far as I'm concerned.That's even closer to the Nomad as well 🙂
Yup agreed in term of distance and convenience, but not so much in terms of environment. With Gil working on the Nomad and the grease and dirt generally associated to a mechanic's workshop, may not be the most hygienic place for a med bay. Should install one of those angarian decontamination machines there lol.
VladVonCastein wrote:Yup agreed in term of distance and convenience, but not so much in terms of environment. With Gil working on the Nomad and the grease and dirt generally associated to a mechanic's workshop, may not be the most hygienic place for a med bay. Should install one of those angarian decontamination machines there lol.
Erm, Gill's room is above that floor, so not sure how his area ties into my idea. Still, I do agree that the rear of the ship is not ideal after giving it some more thought. So I guess it still would make more sense to take Jaal and Cora's rooms and make them into actual bedrooms. A couple of bunk beds each and the plants can go to Liam's room.
That could work I think.
