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I have nothing against DICE, EA but is good proverb:
"given that such received" - "jakie dawane takie odbierane:
Right now I risked my good opinion because I recommended this game. People play this and right now talk with him and apologize for this what happened. If they told me that this is not my fault I feel like is.
I know that DICE, EA doing good games but can't allow risk my opinion again until this will be fix. This is simple. I am too much fan ME but don't buy for this what happened.
Like I said "given that such received". Others think the same because I will tell this 100 times. We customers,trophy/achievement/players didn't deserve for this behaviour like was threaten. When was problem they just escaped instead trying fix this or trying find other solution.
This is my last post because doesn't make sense write something 100 times and we even have any reaction from other side. Because You left support game instead help people.
Zera
Players have already proven that these Prestige Events aren't impossible. Keep practicing and maybe watch some players on youtube for extra racing tips.
Good luck!
- 9 years ago
@Straatford87 Just for saying this answer, we can tell how much of a sadist and delusionnal person you are. You have 16 pages of peoples explaining you why it shouldn't be in the game, and instead of reporting it to the team so they can fix it ASAP, you stay here not doing anything. Why there is 30 cars in the game if only 2 of them can do the challenges ? Are you stupid or you simply acting dumb ? You can ban me I really dont care. Oh and btw, I'm glad cause next time ya gonna make another NFS, nobody will buy it lol. Shame on ya.
- Anonymous9 years ago
Logged into an account I haven't touched in years just to say I was interested in purchasing this game but because of all of the negativity surrounding it I will make sure to avoid it, and let others know about it as well before they get sucked into a pit.
- 9 years agoyou have people on here that have completed it saying it's not acceptable. i didn't ask for this dlc you added it to my profile.
Didn't realize community managers would place troll replies. That's not good customer service. You basically saying people are rubbish and should try harder. - 9 years ago
Are you serious EA_Tom?
Have you even played the DLC? If it was just dependent on difficulty i wouldnt even have written a comment a couple of weeks ago.
The biggest problem with the game/DLC is the random spawns and im sorry to say 'stupid' things that occur during the race. Most noticeable are the random spawns of traffic. There are 2 problems with this, they miraculously spawn right in front of you in order for you to crash into and stop your run and/or increase spawn rate if you are on a really good run.
Also introduce a restart race feature even if cops are on your tail it is just stupid at this point that you have to evade them just to have another attempt.
In essence the game has to be more consistent in order for us completionists to have at least a decent time attempting these. I only attempted the first race to this point and got it Gold but after trying for abt 3 hrs. However, i would have gotten it much quicker if it wasnt for the issues mentioned above.
At least if you dont want to update times, at least make it realistic and more consistent in terms of traffic and cops. dont leave random spawns etc just for it to be a cheap way of making it harder.
Gran turismo trophies and license times for gold are way harder than NFS games but at least GT is consistent in control and doesnt feature random stuff happening during a run so that makes it enjoyable and addicting to try and achieve.
This is NOT. it is just an exercise in frustration.
And im sorry to say that i have played and completed every bloody NFS game to date and always enjoyed them. But after this stunt I am very sad that i will not be able to enjoy any more NFS games because i will be damned if i purchase another game after this treatment.
Matthew
- Anonymous9 years ago
EA_Toms response...lmao.....oh my god.
I think EA_Tom has single handed just lost EA a ton of sale, you're blatent lack of care is horrendous, and you should be ashamed of yourself. The hottest topic in this forum for weeks, and your professional response, is practice? I don't even know what to say.
That's like saying.....here build this Lego, but there's 10 parts missing, but keep practicing, and it may happen..........EA_Tom you live on another planet, and are a disgrace to EA.....yes, even more of a disgrace than they already are.
The guys that have done it....all 2 of them in the world on XBOX, have even stated this is horrendous!!
One of the guys even stated it caused him massive stress and frustration. It's barely possible to drive in this game due to the broken physics......EA your a disgrace. I'm done with this company. They never did care about the end user.....they live in their own little bubble.
- Straatford879 years ago
DICE Team
I am not here to ban players, but I do not appreciate being called a sadist, please refrain from such comments in the future. You are however free to voice passionate opinions about the game. Just don't make them personal.
If you fully read my previous replies then you would know that all player feedback has long since been forwarded to the team.
Nothing has really changed about the gameplay other than the difficulty of a very specific set of challenges. If you were interested in the game before then I am sure you will still like it.
We do care for our players, but we also believe in a challenge. However, as stated earlier, the doors are not closed for lowering the requirements in the future.
Consistency is definitely something we can look at!
In my previous replies I did state that we are still open to changing the challenges in the future. However, we also want to give the opportunity to hardcore players to have a real go at them in their current state.
I can't say that I agree with your Lego comparison though as we do have the parts available. Lastly, no one said that being at the top of gaming isn't stressful. It certainly is!
Once again, since for some reason this keeps getting ignored: we are still open to changing the difficulty of these challenges, just not at this moment.
- 9 years ago
@Straatford87 I've had this before from EA. Last time I was promised a fix to a game (several times over several months) in the end EA changed their mind and left it broken. After several more months complaining I found a local EA employee who agreed with me and sent compensation for the months of empty promises. At this stage if EA is not fixing it now their is almost zero chance in the future as the focus will move to other games and the cost of changing, testing and deploying would be too high.
Your comment about giving challenges to hardcore NFS gamers I agree with, they will enjoy the challenge. What I don't agree with is adding them to trophies which many non hardcore NFS gamers are interested in. Why not add a platinum time requirement that challenges the hardcore NFS gamers and reward them with something they would care about like different car or graphic for their favourite cars - these gamers don't really care about the trophy. Then link the trophy to a challenging (but slightly more reasonable) gold time.
It would be interesting to see if the people that end up getting this trophy are predominantly trophy hunters who persisted to achieve the trophy or hardcore NFS gamers with limited 100% games. If its the former the difficulty is too high for even hardcore gamers to be interested in attempting it.
- Anonymous9 years ago
I didn;t wanted back but can't be silence when those asnwered appear. Sorry that i can't hold my word.
I will try clearly explain why we I mean both community Xbox and PS are angry. This is very simple. In past in short time was few examples why people asked for help never got this. Like I said was example, Battlefield, Fifa and even appear example from Xbox about Need For Speed Carbon. Ok but let peace those issue but people will remember about those situation. That's why people propably really wanted trust You that this will be fixed but those examples and action hold about it.
About Need For Speed. Tom topic was created since beginning Prestige Mode so all played this. I still playing trying do this but can't say that this fun because is not. I also love challenge but reasonable challenge this is not reasonable. Also I would like admit that was solution to do hardcoore challenge like right now is for fans and give him additional cars, customization etc because for them will be prestige and a lot people who want challenge do this for this car. Those solution and others got here but instead do something Studio announced that this was last update. Last update means don't do patch, fix problems and etc. Even when everybody read because I still read and keep in my mind Your words but this hard believe because announced news about doing new Need For Speed and announced that this was last update is hard believe people. That's why people still write here because can't agree with this. I also can't agree with this.
About current situation and opinion EA this really Your chance bring back Your good reputation and really consider this what I write right now. This topic unfortunatelly don't reflect good You like company. We are not here to raise hate, bad opinion about this company but we are here to write problems and present few solutions and raise Your good reputation but can't be situation like this is. Like I said this situation is above me because I am not one who is angry and can't agree with this situation but a lot people.
About You like person. I don't have nothing against You and respect You. I haven't to agree but always respect second person. This is also a message to both community. Please guys I know that situation have a lot controversy but please respect this guys. We are all human and nobody deserve read "monkey of EA", "sadist" etc. Guys calm down because we can write our opinion but critic someone who don't know how is in real life is totally not fair. So calm down and write only opinion. Beside this one of the guy who should more respect than others because he at least answered us so it means that this guys suit for this job .
Also Tom. Still read about future. Can i know propably when this will be fixed? Because right now all what I know is no more update to Need For Speed.
Zera
- Anonymous9 years ago
"Give the opportunity to hardcore players to have a real go"
Ok, but don't put *' insane trophies ! Just make a leaderboard for them... WTF seriously...
- Anonymous9 years ago
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In my previous replies I did state that we are still open to changing the challenges in the future. However, we also want to give the opportunity to hardcore players to have a real go at them in their current state.
I can't say that I agree with your Lego comparison though as we do have the parts available. Lastly, no one said that being at the top of gaming isn't stressful. It certainly is!
Once again, since for some reason this keeps getting ignored: we are still open to changing the difficulty of these challenges, just not at this moment.
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@Straatford87 When I first got the game, I wasn't happy with the handling at all, and all the amount of tuning in the world doesn't change that, it makes it worse, or slightly better. I spent hours upon hours just trying to find a well balanced vehicle that was actually drivable.....I settled on the Aventador, it was the only vehicle in the game, with some tuning that I could actually control to a degree. My 100% completion consisted of me bouncing off the walls and getting lucky, the game was pretty easy anyways, but I never had control fully of the vehicle. When you guys released that Ken Block car and the achievement for drifting (dont remember the DLC name) It took me a week to get it done, as the car was horrific. It was still doable though. The entire handling system is nothing like I have played before, it's insanely off, from what an arcade racer should be.
This is where my Lego comparison comes in, the tools you have given us are extremely flawed, it's impossible for many standard players, and pro players to drive clean in this game, this is just the handling here, before getting into the AI / Online / Cops issues.....Driving a clean lap in itself is a battle, let alone at full speed to nail these golds. I know you work for EA, so in your eyes the game handles amazing, but the community disagrees, the handling in this game is extremely awful. We are battling against elements that shouldn't even be a factor. The tools are broken!
Now if you say were keeping them for the elite, and then changing down the line, and if I believe that...I know many wont agree, but I am fine with that, and I look forward to the change. However, this is EA we are talking about, you have already said updated for this game are done with, and announced a new game already. History proves that EA wont change this at all. So I apologize Tom, but I have a hard time believing you, and I feel your job in this thread is to just silent us with hope, when in reality, you know full well nothing will be done...why? Because this is EA.
EA, the dev that pumps out yearly games, and moves on, the end user has always come last priority to EA....hence why you get all the hate online, and have done for a long while now. You never cared about patching past sports games with unobtainable achievements, why will this be any different? I want to believe you EA_Tom, but being honest with you...I don't.
I don't think EA realises just how many customers they have lost due to Speedlists DLC, the achievement/trophy community is in the millions, and I myself have been amazed at the community backlash on this DLC, I am proud of my community for reacting this way to EA and speaking up. I doubt anything will change on EA's end, as again I feel Toms job is basically to shut us up and hope we forget and move on, but that wont happen as our community is very passionate, and we will always remember. The fact so many people agree with us is great, as IT WILL reflect on NFS 2017 sales unless this is patched...if it is never patched, then it's going to be a sad day the day NFS2017 comes out. This isn't even taking into account how bad the core NFS2015 actually was anyways, the fact it was dedicated to old school fans and still ended up a mess.
True Trophies / PS Trophies / XBOXAchievements / TrueAchievements and the other sheer amount of communities out there, we are very proud you have reacted so negatively to EA, they need to learn.
- Anonymous9 years ago
"Once again, since for some reason this keeps getting ignored: we are still open to changing the difficulty of these challenges, just not at this moment."
I really want to believe you, but I can't. EA announced to focus on the next NFS. That's it. No more support for this game, EA has to drop yearly games like a machine. Other developer support their community for months or years with free or buyable content or patches. They listen to their community. Maybe EA is also doing this, but there won't be any changing. like in many other games in the past years.
Just not at this moment... but WHEN? In six months? We need your help now, please! Sure, some player already completed this challenge. 20? 30? It doen't matter, only a very very small number of players. The elite. But all the other trophyhunter with perfect accounts are not able to finish this. It's to hard, even with hours of practice.
Sorry for my english, I did not pay attention in english class in school, I played a wonderful game NFS Underground. This was more fun 🙂
- Anonymous9 years ago
Hi EA_Tom
At first I want to thank you, for answering to this problem. Excuse me in advance if my english is too bad.
I agree with you that there should be a challenge for the Hardcore players, but i'm pretty sure, the most customers who play this games are non hardcore gamers and the goal of your company is to satisfy them and not only the hardcore gamers. So that makes your arguments pretty invalid.
The problem is not to challenge the players, but how insane the challenges are: for example the first sprint race of the prestige events is about 6.12 km and i have to make it in 1min and 25 seconds my average topspeed has to be higher than 240km/h in a city with other cars and cops and a lot of objects i can't control, so this events are not a challenge they are based on pure luck, my chances to win the lottery are higher.For example in the Formula one, the tracks are around 5.5 to 6km the circuits have no other civilians on the track nor cops or objects on the track or around them they could crash on, they still need around 1:30min per round, and we all know this cars are driven by professional drivers and are built with the best materials of our time, they are light the aerodynamics are perfect and the engines have a lot of power, long story short: these cars are all better than the ones we have in the game, and neither they are able to get those times.
Now please EA_Tom tell me with the laws of physics how the hell should your biggest group of customers the non Hardcore players be able to win Gold medals on tracks that are based on pure luck?You are the voice of the community, you are the knot between us and the developers, if you can't convince them, who the hell then??
I'm a quality manager at my company, and if I see that our customers are complaining about a product, i'm pretty sure not going to tell them they should practice on them. If one of our customers or a lot of our customers (like here) are complaining about a issue, Im going to fix that * problem ASAP, because YOUR CUSTOMERS ARE KINGS . And the strategy you are following here, is just to calm the people down because the sentence "there is the opportunity we will change it in the future." Is the wrong answer to the problem. The right answer is: "Thank you for your feedback, we are doing everything to fix that issue and make your day comfortable. We will give you a feedback as fast as possible" As a costumer i don't care how you fix the problem, but i care that you fix the problem. The answers you have given to this community so far are not just unprofessional they are a slap in the face of your customers, and they will resolve nothing.And the bigger issue is that the company you work for has a lot of studios under them, so the work of one studio and the way you handle the problems of this studios games, will effect all other studios, who maybe work hard and will not sell as much games as they expected just because they publisher can't handle issues. Is that fair?
Your work with one game can affect all other games that maybe are good.
Now I hope you understand the importance of your job.
As far as I can say, your company can be lucky, because your customers are not just complaining no, they even are giving you feedback on how you could change the issues, they are helping you all the way, this makes your treatment even harder to them and your creditability even worser. In the industry i work for , no one of our customers are going to help you. they tell you the problem and you are on yourself till the problem is fixed, and if you can't fix it, you will lose your customer, and to get their trust back you will start again from the bottom.
For now i will not buy Mirrors edge Catalyst because of this issue and because i can't trust your companies work. Neither will my friends, because i will tell them not to, your reputation in my community will suffer from your work here.
Kind regards and have a nice day - Anonymous9 years ago
Only Tom answered us but can't be situation like this.
- Anonymous9 years ago
Said before Toms job is to shut us up and hope we move on. The fact HE marked this as accepted solution proves this. So it doesn't look bad on EA, at first glance on this site it looks like this issue was fixed by EA, when in fact we all disagree. EA made a mistake, it's Toms job to brush it under the rug from the community, which is ALL he has done.
- Anonymous9 years ago
NVM
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