Lets Start a Next NFS Game Idea Thread
I see many people post ideas but there are no threads regarding this. Let me first start with this. I love the game and I enjoy playing it. Lets face it though, many people hated it. Im not sure ho...
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not true. A prime example is UG2. That is a prime example of how a focus on customization can still make a game sell very well. That game focused on customization yet it still had plenty of different types of races, cars and still sold over 11 million copies world wide. Its crazy to me that people think customization does not matter and does not play a big role in how a game sells.
@XGCSith wrote:
not true. A prime example is UG2. That is a prime example of how a focus on customization can still make a game sell very well. That game focused on customization yet it still had plenty of different types of races, cars and still sold over 11 million copies world wide.
@XGCSith Before customization can make an impact on a racing game, the game first has to have both enjoyable driving physics and enjoyable game modes.
NFS Underground 2 had both enjoyable physics and enjoyable game modes firstly. Then customization enhances the gameplay. Therefore, NFS Underground 2 was a success.
Now let me compare two NFS games.
NFS Underground 2 and NFS Most Wanted 2005
NFS Underground 2
1. Only racing game modes (Circuit, Sprint, Drag, Drift, Street X, U.R.L., and Outrun)
2. Extensive amount of customization, especially visual customizations
NFS Most Wanted 2005
1. Racing game modes (Circuit, Sprint, Drag, Lap Knockout, Speedtrap, and Tollbooth time trials) and Pursuit Milestones (Bounty, Trading Paint, Pursuit Length, Pursuit Evasion, Cost to State, Infractions, Police Roadblocks, Spike Strip Roadblocks)
2. Basic amount of customization
Now comparing these two NFS games, NFS Most Wanted 2005 was more well received than NFS Underground 2.
Even though both NFS games had enjoyable driving physics, NFS Most Wanted 2005 had a lot more game modes despite the lack of in-depth customizations.
Let me take your quote of "50% customizations, 50% others".
If the upcoming NFS game were to make customizations #1 priority over driving physics and game modes, then these two things will happen.
1. All cars will handle poorly with unenjoyable driving physics
2. Boredom with not much to do
So you can have all of these nice features in a racing game:
1. Customization
2. Open World
3. Multiplayer Free Roam
But if the driving physics is unenjoyable and if there are a lack of game modes, then the game will seriously be a fail.
I predict the next upcoming NFS game in 2019 will be a fail thanks to you people screaming "MOAR CUSTOMIZATION! MOAR CUSTOMIZATION!"
By the way, try playing NFS Underground 2 on Nintendo DS.
The game has wonky driving physics. Totally not like the driving physics on the console versions.
@XGCSith wrote:
Its crazy to me that people think customization does not matter and does not play a big role in how a game sells.
@XGCSith wrote:
You're argument and TheRealJonys argument is if a game focuses on customization, it wouldn't sell that well.
I never said customization does not matter. You just assumed I did.
All I said was driving physics, racing gameplay, and game modes should be taken with higher priority than customizations.
@master2g wrote:
If I want pure racing and nothing else at all then I’ll go to a real racing game like Iracing, Project cars 1 or 2. Asseto Corsa or other pure sim games.
@master2g Like I said with CLP122214, that's not a very good suggestion.
Arcade racing games, simcade racing games, and simulation racing games do not go hand in hand.
NFS is mainly an arcade racing game, not a simulation racing game.
Come up with arcade racing games (if you can think of any).
@mrtun3r wrote:
GOD, millennials.
@mrtun3r I'm a millennial, but I guess I'm one of those sane millennials. 
@XGCSith wrote:
How is 2015 proof that my argument is invalid? The game didn't fail because of the customization even though, it did lack in some areas. It was criticized because of the empty world, bland story and the handling wasn't the best
Exactly.
"the handling wasn't the best"
The driving physics weren't enjoyable enough, even though it had customization. So Need For Speed 2015 or Need For Speed Reboot didn't receive the same praise as NFS Underground games and NFS Most Wanted 2005 simply because of that.
Nailing the driving physics to be enjoyable can make or break a racing game. And with recent NFS games, the driving physics are breaking the games.
Hmmm, see i will have to disagree with you a bit my friend. I use a Windows Xbox 360 controller because it just doesn't feel right with my Fanatec CSR elite. That wheel allows me to really fine tune stuff and yet i cant find a happy medium with this game , plus i cant use a wheel on any game period with out interior view as it just throws me off. So yes in a way you can say the driving physics are not great then in Payback if i cant even get good feedback through my wheel. So saying that it is like you said and what Im saying.Arcade racing games, simcade racing games, and simulation racing games do not go hand in hand. NFS is mainly an arcade racing game, not a simulation racing game thus its main priority shouldn't be handling , driving physics. I am not saying payback is class leader but for me i cant say handling should take priority over every other aspect of the game. If the game has acceptable handling then like i say i can adapt my driving "skills" to it. Even sims are not created equal so one has to adapt some what to the game at hand. I cant think of any arcade games because i just don't go into a non sim game expecting the same results as I get from the Simulation games i play. I treat them as entirely different entities. I don't really go into Arcade games like Payback expecting perfect physics thus i don't really take them seriously and am not disappointing much. I just need decent controls that i can make work and Im satisfied.
I get what you mean and the driving has to be at least usable but I don't see it as high on the list as you do i guess. As for the other 2 yeah i can see were you are coming from as having some thing to do with the customized ride one just spent hours on creating is a good thing. Again for me Payback does the job with all the different classes such as drag, race and off road so I am happy with it as a whole. My 2 cents and a half 🙂. Plus Im a customization addict so I could be a tad bias on this subject 🙂
- . Man, you guys are killing me with these college paper length replies lol.
The 50/50 comment was taken too literally. What I am saying specifically is we want another Underground. Thats what people have been wanting for years. So yes, customization is very important to modern NFS games. It wont fail if they follow the same model they did with UG2. As far as the comparison between UG2 and MW, yes MW was more successful, yes it didn't have as much customization and has been the best selling. Do to all of the game modes and different races, they had to make cuts somewhere. The systems weren't as powerful as they are now. Im not 100% certain if that is the case but, I would bet money that all of the different types of races had something to do with the lowered about of customization. As I said before, if they follow the same model they did with UG2, it won't fail. Again, people have been wanting another UG since UG2 came out.
Also, I'm kind of confused on what you said to @master2g. You pretty much agreed with him but didn't.
PS I'm a sane millennial too. He must not think I am because im patriotic. @master2g No, I definitely meant Shift 2 Unleashed. When I complained about the lack of customization, I was referring mainly to wrap customization. There were only a few basic decals shapes/patterns, and the method of application was absolutely horrendous. The camera wouldn't stay in one place, and I literally had to hold the camera in place with one thumbstick while I tried to make precise placements with the other thumbstick that was designed for all-or-nothing movements. It was infuriating. You could totally tell that they put the feature in as an afterthought and didn't expect anyone to actually try to create their own racing livery.
Also the wheel selection and body kit stuff was too literal - I would want to use a certain wheel but it only comes in 17" instead of 19" and looks dopey on my supercar. And I don't think any wheel existed that was over 19" in diameter. I dunno, I just wasn't feeling it at all. I definitely prefer the more arcade-style racing like the rest of the NFS series.
... But those are cool cars though!
You may of already knew but the guys who did Shift one and two are the ones who have created Project cars 1 and 2. Just an interesting thing thats all.
When i read your comment about that freaken camera i was laughing so hard cause it so true. I had totally forgotten about that. Probably because iit was so bleepen annoying that i wanted to memory block it . lol.
" I would want to use a certain wheel but it only comes in 17" instead of 19"
Dam straight ! and here we are today right back in that spot . ☹️
Thanks bud 👍
