presentation doesn't Work For Nhl 23

I have already gone back to play a used copy (so I don't give EA anymore money) of NHL 22 just so I can actually have an in game presentation and hope that they will come out and talk about this issue but I won't hold my breath on it. Plus.. just wait in a year or 2 they will add it back in and market it as something like the new "Dynamic in game experience".

I don’t know if people particularly care for this level of detail, but to me NHL 15-NHL 19 had the most immersive presentation yet with the NBC overlays. The game would start with an aerial shot of the home arena, the city skyline, etc. before a Live Broadcast shot of Eddie and Doc talking about the matchup. What I’ve noticed going back is that these were recorded specifically for each matchup (say Dallas vs Boston) as Eddie and Doc would reference both teams by name in real-time recordings which obviously couldn’t be voice stitched since we see their expressions and faces as they speak. On top of the arena spotlights going everywhere, lighting effects and a legitimate team introduction for both sides. They wouldn’t just highlight goalies but centers/forwards/key players as well.

Another thing they would do at opening face off is highlight each center at the face off dot. Now we have Cybulski and Ferraro simply say “and here we go for the opening face off”…

They would actually analyze each team’s performance at the conclusion of a period, and give a brief analysis prior to puck drop at the next frame. 

All that combined with realistic replays, the NBC overlays, Ferraro down at ice level giving sporadic feedback, it was just so much more immersive than the play by play from NHL 20 to present. And I’m sick of the EA Sports overlays, there is no EA Sports Network. It just feels 1998.

Sadly I know EA will never again go back to this level of presentation again. It’s shocking we got what we did in 15-19. 

honestly I’m thinking of using some well reviewed NHL 19 sliders and just playing that until another true broadcast hockey game is released. Which will likely be never.

Maybe most here don’t pay that much attention or care for THAT MUCH level of detail, but I’m a very meticulous OCD type who really appreciates the minute details in sports gaming. 

This NHL 23 snafu with the neutered presentation really is the last straw for me. It’s NHL 19 from here on out for me.

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@Redw91 wrote:

I don’t know if people particularly care for this level of detail, but to me NHL 15-NHL 19 had the most immersive presentation yet with the NBC overlays. The game would start with an aerial shot of the home arena, the city skyline, etc. before a Live Broadcast shot of Eddie and Doc talking about the matchup. What I’ve noticed going back is that these were recorded specifically for each matchup (say Dallas vs Boston) as Eddie and Doc would reference both teams by name in real-time recordings which obviously couldn’t be voice stitched since we see their expressions and faces as they speak. On top of the arena spotlights going everywhere, lighting effects and a legitimate team introduction for both sides. They wouldn’t just highlight goalies but centers/forwards/key players as well.

Another thing they would do at opening face off is highlight each center at the face off dot. Now we have Cybulski and Ferraro simply say “and here we go for the opening face off”…

They would actually analyze each team’s performance at the conclusion of a period, and give a brief analysis prior to puck drop at the next frame. 

All that combined with realistic replays, the NBC overlays, Ferraro down at ice level giving sporadic feedback, it was just so much more immersive than the play by play from NHL 20 to present. And I’m sick of the EA Sports overlays, there is no EA Sports Network. It just feels 1998.

Sadly I know EA will never again go back to this level of presentation again. It’s shocking we got what we did in 15-19. 

honestly I’m thinking of using some well reviewed NHL 19 sliders and just playing that until another true broadcast hockey game is released. Which will likely be never.

Maybe most here don’t pay that much attention or care for THAT MUCH level of detail, but I’m a very meticulous OCD type who really appreciates the minute details in sports gaming. 

This NHL 23 snafu with the neutered presentation really is the last straw for me. It’s NHL 19 from here on out for me.

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The problem with that type of intro, with the aerial view, is that it doesn't work with custom teams.  It would be great if you could do the same with the custom teams in there, but I imagine that would be prohibitively expensive.  Perhaps shots of each city that you could include would be helpful, but is it affordable?

But if we got the announcers stitching in commentary, that would be great.  If we could create them as avatars in the game so that the stitching worked however it was interwoven, that would be excellent.  We need more in depth commentary and noting what players are doing, recent trades that may influence the game, promising rookies and what they might mean to the team, injuries, what happened the last time these two met, and so on.

Oddly, that sort of presentation is exactly what they promised when they said they were creating a game day atmosphere.  That is what I was expecting - rather than a gutted presentation that makes it feel bland and unimportant.

There are certain limitations at some point that have to be accepted for a more TV like broadcast. I don’t see why they couldn’t do a suite of aerial shots that could be used for custom teams, and just keep adding to them year by year. The production quality for the broadcast package in 15-19 was timeless enough that even four or five iterations later, they could still be used just fine.

I just long for more in-depth analysis. Vocal stitching is already used by EA for this series. They just don’t put in extra effort/focus on expanding it. 

I loathe the generic “the goalie got a piece of it” stuff. When is that ever heard on a broadcast? Voice stitching works by dropping in names into an action statement. It can and has been used flawlessly. Sometimes it’s done terribly. 

The biggest issue is longevity and keeping a broadcast team. How long could Doc Emrick be expected to lend his likeness and voice to a video game series? Say it was an exceptional commitment of 7 years. Once he calls it quits, that entire bank of audio has to be scrapped for a new broadcast man.

I guess there is a ceiling on how immersive a video game can be when you look at it realistically but the only realistic solution to me is to make NHL a constantly updated game. No more yearly releases. Give broadcast duos floating commitment contracts so that say Doc/Eddie (example since they’re long gone from the series anyway) spend two years adding content to be patched/downloaded, and then bring in another duo with the same audio formats. In several years time, you’d have say three different broadcast teams, maybe one that is more regional, and one for national games. Just to add to the depth of presentation options for the game.

Innovation, big or small, shouldn’t be removed from a revolving game series. The fact that hat tricks have been in this series 4 or 5 times, removed and then brought back, is criminal. That is just an extremely small example. 

Sports gaming should be a one and done purchase, with lower pricing updates sprinkled in across a calendar year. 

I reinstalled 2019 and will make an effort to update the rosters as much as possible. The feeling of watching a real NHL game is
incomparably better. Also, the score board is where it belongs... That EA NHL23 is still patching...I can't believe that. Offline gamers are just annoying... Luckily I haven't bought NHL23 yet and deliberately looked at the forum first. In the future, maybe an offline player should buy
the game first and then report in the forum...

https://youtu.be/Rgq1bT8RWSE

This video says it all

Can one of the mods/managers say whether or not the developers are looking at patching the option for full presentation back into this game?

This is an apsolute joke! Condensed mode all the time? Wow, thank god I only got the free trial, I won’t be buying this piece of *