presentation doesn't Work For Nhl 23

@EA_AljoI do understand that at this time you don't want to state something that may not be valid cause you don't have the information but my thought on transparency and how this should have been handled would being transparent from the start. This would allowed the consumer to be properly informed to make a sound decision on their purchase. So where was this planned change noted before release, cause I want to see where I missed it. If it was a last minute thing due an unforeseen issue than why not state it. I think a lot of this outrage could have subsided by just being honest about it. The world is in a different place and stuff happens. And if it's fully known how much more constructive can we be?

@MasterB89 

I don't know that the outrage would have subsided, but I would like to see expectations set better.

As far as being constructive goes, I'm mainly talking about voicing concerns without all the abusive anger. Anger I definitely get, but the point is made a lot better when it's not an angry rant.

@EA_AljoFirst off you avoided the question I asked. I want to fact check where it was noted that full presentation was removed and want to know where I can find it noted prior to release. Secondly, you as company created the anger. I fully get not being positive and how it tends to make the whole situation worse but this all could have been avoided if it was stated from the start that this was removed. Sadly, the cause of the hate is driven by the lack of transparency which was caused by the company. If they don't want to hear the hate than is it to hard to ask for honesty from the start. We don't want to be hateful or give angry rants. We want to play the game we were passionate about and look forward to each year. That is not asking for a lot. Especially from an option that was in the game last year.

I personally have never complained about and NHL game and also own mostly all of them going back to the NHL 94. I was always one to step and praise them for the steps the team took.. even with glitches.. the added modes and small additions of team Canada last year were great. I am also one who got NHL day one for the past 20 years. So for me to do this is hard cause all I wanted to do was play some NHL franchise and enjoy the whole experience. I think I share that feeling with many. Its not fun having to this and live on maybe false hopes that it will be fixed. It's the trust that is being lost in this situation that hurts the most. 

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@EA_Aljo

It's frustrating as a long time OG player of the franchise to hear that 'expectations' should be set better. Our expectations are entirely set based on the initial teaser videos EA puts out. I've never complained about the game, and as mentioned in my previous post, am always appreciative of the game that's been put out. But this year was different - how the development team could think it was a good idea to pull back on the presentation options is hard to fathom for a Sports game. When I first played, I assumed it was an option that they'd be fixing within the first couple of days. I couldn't believe once I heard that it was intentional this year to remove the full presentation option! In a sports game!?

When people play a sports game, they want to mimic the pro experience, and what 99% of us know is what we see on TV. That's the experience we want. We want realism. The game feels 'cheapened' this year, and steps away from the full scale experience we're looking for. I've bought this game every year for at least the last 15 years on release day - if I had known you were going to pull back on the presentation, I wouldn't have paid the $100 on day one to get the game. It's disappointing that not only was the presentation removed, but was one of the few things specifically advertised as an improvement. What's been put out is not an improvement, and I hope EA is working to correct this. 

I have zero complaints with any of the game play improvements - I understand you can only do so much to re-invent the game. The game play is great! But things you can improve upon year after year is the presentation.

Everyone is talking like all the "full presentation" options are there, coded into the game and the button to turn it on was taken away, but the reality is much more likely that the "full" presentation was totally removed from NHL 23, and it's just not possible at this point to add it all back in, the code could totally destroy the game and make it broken and unplayable...

So they'll "take the feedback to heart" and "work hard to regain our trust" for NHL 24, and promise to deliver "the best NHL game the FANS truly deserve"

Look for those points in the "presentation update blog post"

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@GREYEN_93 wrote:

Everyone is talking like all the "full presentation" options are there, coded into the game and the button to turn it on was taken away, but the reality is much more likely that the "full" presentation was totally removed from NHL 23, and it's just not possible at this point to add it all back in, the code could totally destroy the game and make it broken and unplayable...

So they'll "take the feedback to heart" and "work hard to regain our trust" for NHL 24, and promise to deliver "the best NHL game the FANS truly deserve"

Look for those points in the "presentation update blog post"

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You're exactly right.  There's probably 0% chance of this being re-added to the game.  That said, they should have had the common sense to not remove it in the first place, or like previous people's comments stated, they should have posted that it was going to be removed so folks could make an educated decision on purchasing the game.  But they'd rather take our money instead.

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@MasterB89 wrote:

@EA_AljoFirst off you avoided the question I asked. I want to fact check where it was noted that full presentation was removed and want to know where I can find it noted prior to release. Secondly, you as company created the anger. I fully get not being positive and how it tends to make the whole situation worse but this all could have been avoided if it was stated from the start that this was removed. Sadly, the cause of the hate is driven by the lack of transparency which was caused by the company. If they don't want to hear the hate than is it to hard to ask for honesty from the start. We don't want to be hateful or give angry rants. We want to play the game we were passionate about and look forward to each year. That is not asking for a lot. Especially from an option that was in the game last year.

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I think when he said he’d like to see expectations set better was more him confirming that this was not noted anywhere. 

In fact, I’d be willing to bet money (not a lot, but some) that he didn’t even know presentations were removed until this thread was made. 

@TheblackDeath935 Yeah, the brilliant minds at EA took it out. Sell us a bill of goods about better presentation, limit the better presentation to six teams and screw us with a condensed broadcast. Yeah, once again, EA screwed us again. Just like last year, give us X-Factors but your players cannot develop them in franchise mode.

It’s a big racket every year. See what they can promise, see if we bite for the bait and then play defense with their moderator’s and community managers, never actually listening and caring about what buyers are saying. Why? Cause we STILL buy the game every year.

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@GREYEN_93 wrote:

Everyone is talking like all the "full presentation" options are there, coded into the game and the button to turn it on was taken away, but the reality is much more likely that the "full" presentation was totally removed from NHL 23, and it's just not possible at this point to add it all back in, the code could totally destroy the game and make it broken and unplayable...

So they'll "take the feedback to heart" and "work hard to regain our trust" for NHL 24, and promise to deliver "the best NHL game the FANS truly deserve"

Look for those points in the "presentation update blog post"

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You're exactly right.  There's probably 0% chance of this being re-added to the game.  That said, they should have had the common sense to not remove it in the first place, or like previous people's comments stated, they should have posted that it was going to be removed so folks could make an educated decision on purchasing the game.  But they'd rather take our money instead.

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Yup, that’s all EA cares about, money. They make all these promises, screw us over, take our money and then hide behind their managers and moderators on message boards. Every year, is a half assed game that we buy. All because they have no competition on these games.

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The best part is ..... you have no idea who the starting goalies are in the game. Fanatstic. It's pure genius. 

Next year just take away the scoreboard and everything will be perfect.