A cont. of the previous thread which has now been locked: https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion-News/presentation-doesn-t-Work-For-Nhl-23/m-p/12089563#M6443
We have to keep this constructive or this one will be too.
@janikatsu wrote:@EA_Aljo I'm not sure if this has been mentioned by others but the removal of the presentation options have also interfered with my gameplay this year. There are multiple times in a game i can't get the line changes that i want because the game runs too fast for me. With the full presentation you could easily change your lines during a replay and now there are times where it only takes 2 seconds from the whistle to the faceoff.
I’ll second this. I often change my lines, Strategies and Faceoff formations on the fly during cutscenes. It actually king of feels like I’m coaching my team a bit when I do that. Since Hockey is one of the few sports where players are substituted right in the middle of play pauses in play are a great time to organize your team and add some structure to what is otherwise a chaotic sport.
I'll third this, I love playing a slow simulation-type game and honestly this year has allowed the most in that. The game feels better on a simulation level than I've ever had it before with my current slider set. It's sadly ruined when I am forced into a line change with a tired group just because it goes from whistle to face off!
Not to mention, some people like myself just enjoy watching replays. I have to manually go into the main menu and break the flow of the game just to watch an AI goal this year, I do hope EA sees how big of a deal this is to the single-player crowd.
Fourth. I must add that this effects online play too presentation is condensed even further. Shorter cuts, and between you loose control and sight of strategies/lines hud, which is already a decade old bug. This leaves almost no time to change lines. Half the time you don’t even see time out cut scene, it’s straight to face off, with totally wrong line on ice.
I’m sorry, the joke is right there so I have to take it. Please don’t let this comment derail this constructive topic.
Even though we no longer have time to quickly change our strategies or lines at whistles, we are not the coach in this game, so we shouldn’t even be worrying about making any changes at all.
Not sure why but my previous post was silently removed. All I stated was that it’s hard to know what constructive criticism is to EA.
90% of the previous thread were lengthy, impassioned posts that were well articulated and vehemently expressed concerns about this presentation decision.
“burn in hell” and other crossing the line posts were removed as expected and bans issued. I don’t see how the thoughtful, impassioned responses were considered anything other than constructive CRITICISM. After all, it is criticism.
I really feel like EA didn’t want a 1,000 post response on the front page for all to see, and locked it just shy of that mark. This thread will serve as a continuation but as long as EA is intent on silencing the negative feedback, this will eventually be locked as well, despite the posting content.
I made mention of Dominos Pizza doing a rebranding where they admitted their faults and look at the company’s success today. Maybe that angered EA when I suggested that they offer more transparency or perhaps some ownership in their mistakes. This isn’t intended to be CRUEL or rude. It’s a simple analysis with an offering of alternative ways to do business when dealing with an impassioned customer base.
One would think this is exactly what these forums are for. It offers EA a direct line of sight or a finger on the pulse of the customer base regarding feedback, positive or negative.
The heightened activity and post count obviously got EA’s attention, and as @EA_Aljo mentioned they are very well aware of our concerns.
We appreciate that EA has noticed this, but that appreciation feels in vain when a giant discussion on said topic is locked to eventually be pushed off the first page. By the very nature of locking the thread, it diminishes the obvious importance of this topic to other new site visitors looking to share the same sentiment. They may see this thread, at a dozen posts in total and think “maybe this isn’t a big deal and I’m overreacting” and choose not to comment on it at all.
It’s just deflating to have such an impassioned conversation locked away. Again, the 10% of out of line comments were and could have continued to be removed. Locking the thread for everyone who shared very thoughtful concerns and made valid points feels unfair because of a few errant posters. It’s punishment to all for the actions of a few.
I’ve never really understood why they lock posts like that instead of just cleaning it up and giving short bans for some to cool off. I understand locking the obvious ones that are about nothing except toxicity, but this one had a lot of good/productive points made. They monitor the new threads made about it anyways, so not sure the difference…
There have been so many good posts the last couple of years that have great discussion get locked out because 2 guys start arguing over who is better or knows more about the game.
Community ManagerIt really wasn't 90% of the posts being constructive and well thought out. Also, one of your posts was removed because it was part of a thread that was removed. It wasn't your post specifically. Had the original thread been as constructive as you mentioned, it would have stayed up. It eventually turned in to a lot of posts that break the rules and was largely non-constructive. It also wasn't really making a difference as again, we know how you all feel. More posts on top of an already lengthy thread isn't going to change that.
As far as being more transparent goes, I tried that with the True Broadcast camera thread. It wasn't as well received as I hoped. Normally, our transparency just results in more toxic responses. Which doesn't give us motivation to be more transparent.
@EA_Aljo wrote:As far as being more transparent goes, I tried that with the True Broadcast camera thread. It wasn't as well received as I hoped. Normally, our transparency just results in more toxic responses. Which doesn't give us motivation to be more transparent.
I firmly disagree with you saying the responses you received in that thread were “toxic”. You received a lot of appreciation from people for the clarity while they were also expressing the frustration behind the decision.
Any of the posts you don’t like in that thread would have been as bad or worse had you said nothing.
