So, are you going to let us edit characters again? (Postion, look, play style.)Are you going to restore the importance of player preferences matching coach preferences? Or is it going to still be all based on X-Factors?What else did ya'll add, apart from the massive league? While its really cool, it doesn't do anything for us who prefer a more realistic game style.Can you add an expansion team to every division? Will they all be done at the same time? Will we have an opition to turn the background to "night mode"? While I appreciate the white background supposed to be the ice, for those of us with sensitive eyes, staring and things on a white background can be next to impossible.Any way to turn off or tone down the X-Factors? Having 20 or 30 players every year with 3 to 5 Zone Abilities and Super Star abilities seems off when a lot of players who deserve them in game don't have them at all.

@KlariskraysNHL You’re saying that the NHL has a say in a sports video game about whether or not a brightness setting can be changed? Or even editing things like player style, which technically aren’t even official labels… calling Pastrnak a sniper or playmaker is subjective… do you think the NHL actually cares about that, and go out of their way to shut that down? Whereas the NHL’s counterparts in video games or madden fifa etc all have those features of editing and are fine with it?Not sure where you’re going with this…. Offline community are pretty fed up with paying $80 each year for the same game/little effort being put into the game mode in terms of player requests… especially when they specifically ask us for suggestions and don’t listen….

I stand with you on multiple things @heavydutyrammer. I'm not 100% on the AI changes. Personally, I've never had an issue with mine. Maybe the sim engine.As far as @KlariskraysNHL The game devs do totally listen to its online fan base, but they back those who spend more money. That is all Rammer is talking about. They tend to over look Franchise and Be a Pro becuase they pay 70 to 80 dollars (or 50 to 60) once, where the online players can drop 50 a month.The Devs cater to those who spend more, as they should, its a business after all, but all the success you online gamers get, we offline gamers get ignored. It would just be nice is they undid 2 or 3 things they did to make the game better or, and hear me out, released and Offline only version of the game, were they met out wants as well.You are comparing apples to oranges here. Offline gamers do constantly feel cheated, and if you don't understand that, don't worry, but don't harass us for asking.

@KlariskraysNHL You do know that we can edit players right? That’s a fact. We use to be able to edit them mid season. Now we can’t. But we can still edit them. So the NHL said editing players is fine UNLESS the career mode already started?I get what you’re saying and I won’t say you’re wrong about something like that… the violent/safety/heath aspect of the game, sure. Especially with the NFL being under heat about the CTE issues…But I can guarantee that the NHL doesn’t give a flying F about nearly every feature we ask for…GM connected? Editing players? Revamp AI? Better visual settings for brightness? Control more than one team? Better sim engine? What problems does the NHL have with that?

@KlariskraysNHL As mentioned above, that is highly unlikely. That said, I don’t have much faith in the NHL brain trust either. So if that was the answer, and there was a venue for me to show the NHL what their actions look like to their fans/customers, then I’d absolutely do it.For months leading up to this week I was giving EA the benefit of the doubt. There were things they were doing that made me believe they were actually listening to the fans. I got excited after the initial trailer came out and found out we could create our own custom league and “control every aspect of the league.” I took that to mean we would be able to control more than one team, and be able to edit players within Franchise Mode. I responded to these threads giving EA credit for listening to their customers and anxiously awaited more details from the Game Modes “Deep Dive”.Then the not-so-Deep-Dive came out and confirmed that basically the only change was custom leagues (and a long overdue Stanley Cup celebration). A little disappointing, but at least they were trying to listen to us. Then @EA_Aljo confirmed we would NOT be able to control more than one team and would NOT be able to edit players once Franchise Mode had started.That made it clear that Custom League is not likely the result of customer feedback, but rather something they probably already had on their roadmap for a couple years. And instead of implementing the customer feedback that would go along with this to make it a wonderful addition to the game, they elected to just ignore it once again.EA continues to try to placate us with words and then taking minimal or half-assed actions to try to get us to be quiet. I’m simply pointing out to them that it’s not acceptable, as I would in an NHL forum if they had one where they were looking for suggestions and feedback.

The biggest problem is that they broke their own game and don't care. In what 2018 or 19, they added coaches. It made it more fun (IMO) to scout NHL players and Prospects to align with your coaches stats. You can't just get a hugh mix of players and gets plus five. Even if you "cheat" (and I don't consider it cheating) to change the player type from TWF to PLY/PWF/SNP becuase they programed in a TWF bias.In 22, they added X-Factors, which got rid of the TWF bias, but added a whole new level of cheapness. Now, all you need is Magnetic, Third Eye, and Tape to Tape and you can have 3 players with 5 red Xs and still get a +5 line chemistry...So, we can't turn Morgan Geekie from a TWF to a PLY to give Seattle a little boost, but we can give Yannick Gourde, Jordan Eberle, and Jayden Swartz X-Factors to give the top like an amazing chemistry.I rebranded the Philadelphia Flyers into the Philadelphia Renegades and with 7 years, (and no cheating) had 11 forwards, 6 defenseman, and 2 goalies with Zone Abilities and Superstar Abilities. Everything was/is a +5 on this team.Its all rather broken...

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heavydutyrammer
3 years ago
@IrishOwl Yeah I usually hardly ever listen to players if they don’t even play offline… pretty hard to take them seriously when they don’t really know what they’re talking about…
kyl_35
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@KlariskraysNHL As mentioned above, that is highly unlikely. That said, I don’t have much faith in the NHL brain trust either. So if that was the answer, and there was a venue for me to show the NHL what their actions look like to their fans/customers, then I’d absolutely do it.

For months leading up to this week I was giving EA the benefit of the doubt. There were things they were doing that made me believe they were actually listening to the fans. I got excited after the initial trailer came out and found out we could create our own custom league and “control every aspect of the league.” I took that to mean we would be able to control more than one team, and be able to edit players within Franchise Mode. I responded to these threads giving EA credit for listening to their customers and anxiously awaited more details from the Game Modes “Deep Dive”.

Then the not-so-Deep-Dive came out and confirmed that basically the only change was custom leagues (and a long overdue Stanley Cup celebration). A little disappointing, but at least they were trying to listen to us. Then @EA_Aljo confirmed we would NOT be able to control more than one team and would NOT be able to edit players once Franchise Mode had started.

That made it clear that Custom League is not likely the result of customer feedback, but rather something they probably already had on their roadmap for a couple years. And instead of implementing the customer feedback that would go along with this to make it a wonderful addition to the game, they elected to just ignore it once again.

EA continues to try to placate us with words and then taking minimal or half-assed actions to try to get us to be quiet. I’m simply pointing out to them that it’s not acceptable, as I would in an NHL forum if they had one where they were looking for suggestions and feedback.
Beauts90
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@kyl_35, there is no doubt in my mind that the decision to allow us to customize our leagues came from the pandemic year. There were a lot of requests to be able to change schedules, playoff matchups, etc, while roster sharing highlighted that even more.
To the majority of users, while a cool feature, a request that has either been forgotten about or will be used sparingly.

They introduced scouting, coaching and the trade deadline half baked, if there was ever a feature that didn’t need to be fully implemented right away it was league customization. There was no need to spend time on home/away playoff matchups, AHL details among others when the coaching, scouting, roster construction and sim engine all need massive improvements.

There are no doubt some things the NHL probably won't allow (suspensions, changing personal player characteristics, career ending injuries), but to not allow features that are already available in other modes or in previous games just makes zero sense as a justification.
IrishOwl
3 years ago
Well, the justification is that it won't make them any additional money, so why waste time.
Like I said before, and I'll say it again and probably get a temp ban, but since they don't have any competition on the open market, they have no reason to make the modes better.
It make take hundreds of hours (or 30 seconds, I really don't know which) to make the simple changes. I don't know anything about coding, but business I understand. If they add what we want, when there is no negative to us not buying. They might sell a few less games, but the real money in gaming isn't the purchase price, its the monthly subscription fee and/or micro transactions.
If they earn 1 cent per player per day, with a fan base of say 50,000 players, they are earning 500 dollars a day that's 182k a year on top of subscriptions. Thats a heck of a lot more then what they get from off us offline gamers.
Now, consider why they won't give us an online mode...like online Franchise. If they did, they'd probably charge us 15 dollars a month to play games...

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