Getting rather tired of the AI shooting the puck from anywhere on the ice and it going in the net. Even with the sliders at MAX 100 value, the human goalies absolutely SUCK! Might as well take the goalie out, the outcome would be the exact same. Horrible installment this year. Well, the game cheats, so do I. I turn off the game every time the computer cheats with these cheap goals and start over. I am not going to have 4 shots on goal on me and half of them go in. Absolutely horrendous goalies.

Which is why they never fix the bugs. They always wait until the next installment.... where they add all new bugs.

You're not able to reproduce what everyone is experiencing? You ARE playing NHL 23, right? It seems impossible for me to believe that all of us are experiencing horrible goaltending and EA, of course, cannot reproduce it. With all due respect, I find that VERY hard to believe.

I'm sorry, but I cannot accept this answer. This is a known issue that a number of us is having. And you think it is a lone issue with my copy of the game? All my settings are the same from previous years. I never change the settings. Meaning that I use the same settings I use every year with each installment of the game. I make sure they are the same as I have the previous game installed at the time still and I make sure that all settings are identical.Taking video doesn't confirm anything but that the computer gets cheap goals. Period. I played last night and the first cheap goal came after shot 2. So they had one goal in just two shots. And the shot was questionable. The second goal was another cheap shot. They just threw it at the net and my goalie just sat there and let it go in. And the third goal was the worst yet. It came not 10 seconds after the 2nd goal and that was when I turned it off. The computer basically crashed my net and kicked it in and it was allowed. I do that and it is denied.You guys need to fix the cheating. And I believe the person above who said EA will NEVER fix it this year and that you all will wait until next year to restructure goalies. I guess with nothing new to add to the game you all need to break certain parts of it and then fix it in the next installment and call it something like "Restructured AII with goalies! Now they are better than ever!" Or something like that. We were all not born yesterday. We know how EA operates. And if there were other NHL games out there, I guarantee you we would be jumping ship very quickly. I know I would. I am not ashamed to say it either.This treatment of the fanbase and asking for videos just because you can't reproduce it on your end (what about YOUR settings? How do we know YOUR settings are the same as ours?) but all of us are having the same issue, especially that person above you played 5 games and shared his findings. If that isn't proof enough that it is not just me, then I don't know what is.The only thing left to do is to make the computer the dumbest on the ice. Turn off ALL the shooting and passing and tune them down to 0. THEN the game will actually be fair. But I'll still bet they score 3-5 goals a game because the goalie AI is garbage this year. But, if the computer is going to cheat and get practically every goal to go in with their cheap shots, then I will cheat as well.

@cjg2022cjg yep, in my tuners I have shot power at 100 (ridiculous) and goalie save reaction and screen effect all maxed out to be the worst possible to somewhat occasionally simulate some real life goaltending on simulation settings lol.

no...for some reason the in-house copies of NHL games can't reproduce the retail copy version issues...

When is EA going to fix goalies???

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TTZ_Dipsy
Hero+
3 years ago
AI goalies will probably get an overhaul in NHL 24 but I can pretty much guarantee human goalie physics/controls won't be touched (they never are). The only way I can see human goalies getting any better is if we're given VR controls
project86
3 years ago
So then shouldn't we be able to get our money back then? Especially if they refuse to fix the goalie AI and they are still supporting the game up until at least July/August 2023? They come out with a game that will remain broken like this where the computer continues to get cheap goal after cheap goal? This is a horrendous business model. But, it IS EA we are referring to after all.
cjg2022cjg
3 years ago
@project86 I find this the most annoying thing during the games. Shatters the realism completely. I play with tuners that have goalie tuners max out to 100 and AI passing to 3/100 and shooting accuracy 0/100. Still my AI goalies save percentage hovers between 55 and 80%.

CPU scores 80-90% of the breakaways. The CPU team will shoot super rarely and almost never from secondary sectors. In real life most of the shots come from there, not from the best shooting sectors. Also I love that tip-ins are again effective, but CPU team is way too good at it. Those rare shots that CPU team will shoot from the blueline will be tipped in by CPU player more than half of the time.

When playing with 5 min periods, CPU usually has around 10 shots in a game and has scored 3 to 4 times.

Just to point out to EA, I'm not talking about I trying to score here, I'm talking about CPU team scoring against me. Personally I have the opposite side goalie tuners put up to the max 100 settings as well. I find it nice and hard to score then and really need to work for it. The CPU scoring so easily makes it so much frustrating as I work hard, sometimes need up to 25 to 30 shots to score (like in real life) and then the CPU gets even an half chance and it somehow goes in.

Also we shouldn't need to provide any videos to proof this. We aren't talking a bug here or the goalie doing something wrong. The CPU team just don't shoot enough and they do score in too high rate. I've personally tried this from Pro level onwards.
Greyinsi
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
@project86 you can get refunded on PS Store at least. You just need to list still unfixed bugs and mention post launch removed content (True Broadcast Camera). Hope this helps.
drewgriffiths
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
@project86 tbh, the soft goals that my goalie let in, I also see at the other end. I really see NO evidence of there being a bias against the human team’s goalie.
project86
3 years ago
I don't think this is accurate. I have learned to score several installments ago and perfected it. My shots are up there in the 50's after every game and my goals range from maybe 6-12 per game. The computer's shots range from 10-15 shots and nearly half of their shots go in. There is definitely a computer AI perk that only the AI has. I will be EA designed it this way because last installment, NHL 22, I would have many shutouts because my defense was spectacular. Now, I cannot get through a game without the other team scoring multiple times. And as the other person stated, breakaways result in 80-90% of their goals. The computer ALWAYS dekes and the puck nearly ALWAYS goes in. That is not realistic.
project86
3 years ago
This does help. Thank you. And if EA comes out and says they will not fix the goalies or the bugs then I would have a much better chance at getting refunded. 30 dollars is still 30 dollars. I don't even like playing this game at all. After the computer scores their cheap goals after taking one or two shots, I give up and turn off the game and go to something else. Right now I am playing the women's tournament, and a glaring bug here would be the women are being gendered as men. For example, when one of my gal's gets a goal, the announcer says "HIS second goal of the game!" This has been an issue for literal YEARS! EA STILL hasn't fixed this.
bruanor09
Seasoned Veteran
3 years ago
@TTZ_Dipsy
A human goalie needs zone ability against CLOSE QUARTERS
, an attacker is able to push the puck into a mouse hole in a split second, and the goalie is forced to look at it
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
3 years ago
@project86 wrote:

This does help. Thank you. And if EA comes out and says they will not fix the goalies or the bugs then I would have a much better chance at getting refunded. 30 dollars is still 30 dollars. I don't even like playing this game at all. After the computer scores their cheap goals after taking one or two shots, I give up and turn off the game and go to something else. Right now I am playing the women's tournament, and a glaring bug here would be the women are being gendered as men. For example, when one of my gal's gets a goal, the announcer says "HIS second goal of the game!" This has been an issue for literal YEARS! EA STILL hasn't fixed this.

So far, we haven't been able to reproduce this. If you get some video of it, please send it over. Thank you!
TheUnusedCrayon
Seasoned Ace
3 years ago
@cjg2022cjg yep, in my tuners I have shot power at 100 (ridiculous) and goalie save reaction and screen effect all maxed out to be the worst possible to somewhat occasionally simulate some real life goaltending on simulation settings lol.

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