I’ve been flipping back and forth playing 24/23 using the same teams for both games. I’m starting to think how the players skate in 23 is actually better than 24.
The poke check in 23 is 10x better as well.
Almost forgot to mention the flip dump in 23, which works so well. 🥲
Would love to hear the community’s thoughts on the skating in NHL 24 vs 23.
The skating was ruined with the introduction of RPM in NHL 19. Their goal was to make everyone skate like a 40 pound McDavid after 60 red bulls and 10 hits of smelling salts, and they achieved it:
https://youtu.be/yJS4uqcUhoc?si=ww2vkrKvwdkc0Fg6
"really quick blends matching exactly what the player is asking for from the input and really that's how McDavid skates in real life"
In other words, no momentum, no responsibility on the user to manage speed vs control. You can be skating at full speed and pretty much turn in any direction you want without losing much if any speed. Everyone's legs move as if they are weightless and they move their feet a million times per minute.
Like everything else in the game, this mostly helps offense. It is hard to angle players out when they can completely change angles at full speed. It is why it is so easy to break out and there is no forechecking. It is why offensive zone play looks more like an Allen Iverson ISO than anything resembling hockey.
The skating was much better with the TPS skating from NHL 13-18:
https://youtu.be/v3YiRzMLsPA?si=HUi4Zn_xwtRby8Kn
"In NHL 13, skating is physics based. When the forward comes in with speed, he has a harder time turning"
When you were skating fast, you actually felt like you were skating fast, because you could feel the momentum when turning. It was actually fun to gain speed, you felt like you were going fast and had momentum.
I don't notice any difference between 24 and 23 when it comes to skating itself - I just wish the AI was updated to keep up to super speed humans
I don’t really notice that much of a difference skating between the games. I do notice defensive abilities are a lot better in 23 than 24. Also I think teammate AI has started to get worse every year starting from 21 until now. From breakouts in the defensive zone to trying to get open in the offensive zone. And especially with loose pucks. I can’t tell you how many countless times over the years there’s a loose puck and the AI just stands there staring at it, meanwhile I’m spamming the button to try and change to that player so they can go get the puck 😂😂😂
@Tier1SOFOperator wrote:I’ve been flipping back and forth playing 24/23 using the same teams for both games. I’m starting to think how the players skate in 23 is actually better than 24.
The poke check in 23 is 10x better as well.
Almost forgot to mention the flip dump in 23, which works so well. 🥲
Would love to hear the community’s thoughts on the skating in NHL 24 vs 23.
Skating and stick handling were far superior in 23. Those were two things they did not need to mess with, but something somewhere was tuned or changed and both feel clumsy and awkward this year. Dekeing on breakaways is causing players to crash into goalies every game.
Here's the thing. I don't mind if they make changes to these mechanics, but at least tell us what you did behind the scenes. There are so many changes to miniscule mechanics that have serious effects and they are not mentioned as being tweaked. Therefore, players like you and me are left wondering "did they change something? Is it really off or different ?"
It is frustrating, to say the least.
TPS was fantastic! Loved it. Huge mistake going away from that! Kids complained that it was too slow, etc and EA listened. Damn shame!
I assumed we still had TPS but nope what do I know
Bring back TPS
@Jagavekov wrote:The skating was ruined with the introduction of RPM in NHL 19. Their goal was to make everyone skate like a 40 pound McDavid after 60 red bulls and 10 hits of smelling salts, and they achieved it:
https://youtu.be/yJS4uqcUhoc?si=ww2vkrKvwdkc0Fg6
"really quick blends matching exactly what the player is asking for from the input and really that's how McDavid skates in real life"
In other words, no momentum, no responsibility on the user to manage speed vs control. You can be skating at full speed and pretty much turn in any direction you want without losing much if any speed. Everyone's legs move as if they are weightless and they move their feet a million times per minute.
Like everything else in the game, this mostly helps offense. It is hard to angle players out when they can completely change angles at full speed. It is why it is so easy to break out and there is no forechecking. It is why offensive zone play looks more like an Allen Iverson ISO than anything resembling hockey.
The skating was much better with the TPS skating from NHL 13-18:
https://youtu.be/v3YiRzMLsPA?si=HUi4Zn_xwtRby8Kn
"In NHL 13, skating is physics based. When the forward comes in with speed, he has a harder time turning"
When you were skating fast, you actually felt like you were skating fast, because you could feel the momentum when turning. It was actually fun to gain speed, you felt like you were going fast and had momentum.
I actually think RPM is a great system that just hasn't been tuned well. NHL 20 has amazing skating with sliders.
The fact that people are asking for TPS back just goes to show how they keep making things worse.
I think the NHL franchise really needs to revamp skating all around. Here are some reasons why:
Balance: In the NHL franchise balance is simply one's ability to not fall when getting hit. In actual skating, balance is key; you don't have a shot without balance, you can't pivot, you can't protect the puck, you can't camp and look for a deflection, and so on. Skating should START with the balance attribute. Speed, agility, acceleration, fighting and even shooting attributes should be defined by balance.
Also instead of using balance, acceleration, speed, and agility as your main mechanics, EA should use actual techniques - how are a player's cross-overs? How well to they stop (and go)? How good are they with pivots?
