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Kjolderssen's avatar
2 years ago

Does Seeing Eye stack with Total Eclipse?

Just recently read that many abilities don't stack, e.g. you cant take a snap shot in close quarters range and get both Make It Snappy and Close Quarters to activate.

My question is, would something like Total Eclipse and Seeing Eye stack fully, partially or not at all? Thank you.

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  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
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    2 years ago

    Hello, @Kjolderssen 

    Seeing Eye and Total Eclipse affect different attributes so these can both be activated at the same time.

  • Big_E_Bronco50's avatar
    Big_E_Bronco50
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    2 years ago

    When you say ‘affect different attributes’ this leads me to believe the abilities boost the attributes of your player. My question is does it add a few points or a percentage of the current attribute?

    For example, Close quarters adds 3 wrist shot power and accuracy or adds 3% of your current wrist shot power and accuracy. 

  • Big_E_Bronco50's avatar
    Big_E_Bronco50
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    2 years ago
    @EA_Aljo Also I think I get what the OP is saying. If a teammate is using total eclipse to debuff the goalies reaction time, does the debuff applied from my seeing eye shot stack? Is the opposition goalie affected twice, once by my teammates total eclipse and once by my seeing eye?
  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
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    2 years ago

    @Big_E_Bronco50 

    Since Seeing Eye and Eclipse have different effects so they will stack.

    Unfortunately, I don't have all those numbers.

  • Big_E_Bronco50's avatar
    Big_E_Bronco50
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    2 years ago

    I agree the initial effect is different. However they both have an additional effect that reads the same. 

    Seeing Eye reads, "Advanced accuracy on shots when the goalie is screened. A screened goalie's reaction time is also reduced when shooting with this ability".

    Total Eclipse reads, "Exceptional skill at screening the goalie and obstructing their view when screening with this player. The goalie's reaction time is greatly reduced."

    It seems to me these two would effect the goalie in the same way and would not stack. I would theorize, based on the logic represented in the responses about abilities, that these two would not both affect the goalie. I would assume whichever is providing the greater reduction in goalie reaction time would trigger. I would recommend the OP use a different shot perk if a teammate is screening with total eclipse.

    It seems like these two perks, which seem synergistic, really aren't. Wouldn't Heatseeker just be better than Seeing Eye if a teammate is already providing the goalie debuff with Total Eclipse? Heatseeker will still trigger even if the teammate isn't available to screen. 

  • KlariskraysNHL's avatar
    KlariskraysNHL
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    2 years ago
    @Big_E_Bronco50 Seeing Eye is from the shooter. Total Eclipse is from the person doing the screening. So in a way both do stack but not from 1 player using both.
  • Big_E_Bronco50's avatar
    Big_E_Bronco50
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    2 years ago
    @KlariskraysNHL I’ll try this one more time…the second phrase of each perk seems to imply an effect on the goalies attributes, not the shooters and screeners attributes. They seem to have the same effect on the goalies attributes and would probably not stack similarly to how the same effect won’t stack on user with overlapping shooting perks.
  • Sorry, I'm referring to the same effect they have, not the different effects, namely that total Eclipse reduces the goalies reaction time and seeing eye reduces the goalies reaction time.

    Does this stack? Do goalies react even slower if they're screened with total Eclipse and facing a seeing eye shot?

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