Had enough!
From AI generated offside. Interference calls, and goals called back for taking an extra shot at the goalie. Game just is no longer enjoyable. Packs WAY OVER PRICED. Content of packs abysmal. The ha...
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EA_Aljo
Community Manager
Community ManagerI'm definitely not going to deny that the game has its issues. However, it doesn't appear to be broken. You say you want the game to be enjoyable regardless of skill level. What would make that better for you? There are already multiple difficulty settings. In HUT, you are going to most often get matched up with others around your skill level as well. You also have multiple difficulty levels for offline play in this mode. This may not happen so much during off peak hours where there's a smaller player pool though. So, what are your ideas to make the game more enjoyable for all skill levels?
As far as the bias between offline/online goes, are you talking about how there occasionally is an online requirement for the daily objectives? The majority of them are completed in offline modes. Not to mention all the Moments objectives. There are far more offline objectives than online. Of course we're going to reward the online players as well when there's a requirement to play a Rivals game. Thankfully, HUT Rush objectives often include XP collectibles so skipping that game and not completing the daily requirements can be made up there.
Also, we always encourage video of any issues you find. It would be great to see the offside calls being missed as they seem to be very accurate and I haven't seen other videos showing those calls not being made. I have seen times when icing doesn't get called though. Interference calls are absolutely frustrating. I hear ya there. If there were one thing I could fix immediately, that would be it. I still don't think the game is broken or unplayable and it doesn't appear that I'm alone in that thought. At least according to the amount of players the game currently has. Of course, not everyone has the same definition of fun though and it's unfortunate we didn't meet that for you. Hopefully, future releases will be more to your liking.
Regarding the use of the word broken. When something is not working up to the standard that it should. Something is wrong within. And the only way to remedy that problem is to FIX it. Hence the word broken. Perhaps if I substitute the word unacceptable outcome, it might be less an offensive word regarding the game. As you have agreed. Missed icing calls. Missed offsides. Goalie infractions called back when the individual player with the puck is trying to finish a goal attempt. Players laying on the ice, flopping like a fish, and no whistle blown even after you take possession of the puck. An the interference calls. 80%+ generated by the AI. As are offside when you cross the blueline with puck possession. Why I have brought this contention up is. It has been a constant for the past several issues of this game. And it's seems even though videos and othe complaints have been voiced by other community members. Nothing changes. As for the bias. Online/offline. My only beef with that is in SB. Where EA almost every second week, injects a Rivals objective in order to complete the Daily or weekly objectives. This isolates the offline community from obtaining the over all objective. I understand that this comment can and probably is seen as a personal failure on my part. However. It's the obvious everyday, every game issues that are at issue here. Let's just call this complaint, as a call to EA, to address, these somewhat minor problems, so the game can run without community complaint.
@dogheels wrote:Regarding the use of the word broken. When something is not working up to the standard that it should. Something is wrong within. And the only way to remedy that problem is to FIX it. Hence the word broken. Perhaps if I substitute the word unacceptable outcome, it might be less an offensive word regarding the game. As you have agreed. Missed icing calls. Missed offsides. Goalie infractions called back when the individual player with the puck is trying to finish a goal attempt. Players laying on the ice, flopping like a fish, and no whistle blown even after you take possession of the puck. An the interference calls. 80%+ generated by the AI. As are offside when you cross the blueline with puck possession. Why I have brought this contention up is. It has been a constant for the past several issues of this game. And it's seems even though videos and othe complaints have been voiced by other community members. Nothing changes. As for the bias. Online/offline. My only beef with that is in SB. Where EA almost every second week, injects a Rivals objective in order to complete the Daily or weekly objectives. This isolates the offline community from obtaining the over all objective. I understand that this comment can and probably is seen as a personal failure on my part. However. It's the obvious everyday, every game issues that are at issue here. Let's just call this complaint, as a call to EA, to address, these somewhat minor problems, so the game can run without community complaint.
Well stated!
And I'd like to clarify in my previous post that I don't believe the onus for a constructive conversation to take place is on you to replace words like "glitch" or "broken" because those words have been used in the context of NHL in the exact way you used them. In fact, I believe those words can be found in almost all sports game communities so I definitely don't think it's necessarily on you. However, on these forums specifically, those words tend to illicit less than ideal responses and usually wind up leading to less than constructive conversations which is why it's best to steer clear of them to avoid future discussions about the definition of "broken" when we should be discussing your valid points/criticisms/complaints.
@Limp_KidzKit wrote:Well stated!
And I'd like to clarify in my previous post that I don't believe the onus for a constructive conversation to take place is on you to replace words like "glitch" or "broken" because those words have been used in the context of NHL in the exact way you used them. In fact, I believe those words can be found in almost all sports game communities so I definitely don't think it's necessarily on you. However, on these forums specifically, those words tend to illicit less than ideal responses and usually wind up leading to less than constructive conversations which is why it's best to steer clear of them to avoid future discussions about the definition of "broken" when we should be discussing your valid points/criticisms/complaints.
I'm with you on this. While personally I try to use more precise language when talking about issues with the game, not everybody has the same communication style and getting bogged down in semantics rather than dealing with the problem at hand doesn't help anyone. A clarifying statement about the preferred term can be helpful, but it shouldn't become the focus of the conversation or a springboard for people to dismiss legitimate problems. I think @EA_Aljo does a pretty good job of walking this line.
That said, there is a balancing act. Someone coming here just saying "The game is broken!" or "Feature X is broken" isn't being constructive. Providing examples, being clear about what isn't behaving correctly and why are still important.
I concur with you regarding trash talk towards the game, generated most probably out of frustration. And perhaps the word Broken is too aggressive a word when pointing out Problems with the game. Like I have stated in my previous post. The existing problems, which have been displayed numerous times on this platform, by other community members. Do not seem to warrant action, towards their remedy. I am not leveling my complaint against any individual here that has the job as liason between game and community. But my aim is at EA, for not staying with what they had in the past. A game that was dedicated to the community to which it's existence serves. But these latter versions have strayed away from that concept, and used the game as a lottery device, to obtain value over worth. And right now, the trend it is on ( in my opinion) is not worth the Worth! I appreciate the educated responses I have received back, as was stated earlier. Intelligent conversation is worthy of notice. Babble is but a nuisance.
- EA_Aljo
@dogheels wrote:
Regarding the use of the word broken. When something is not working up to the standard that it should. Something is wrong within. And the only way to remedy that problem is to FIX it. Hence the word broken. Perhaps if I substitute the word unacceptable outcome, it might be less an offensive word regarding the game. As you have agreed. Missed icing calls. Missed offsides. Goalie infractions called back when the individual player with the puck is trying to finish a goal attempt. Players laying on the ice, flopping like a fish, and no whistle blown even after you take possession of the puck. An the interference calls. 80%+ generated by the AI. As are offside when you cross the blueline with puck possession. Why I have brought this contention up is. It has been a constant for the past several issues of this game. And it's seems even though videos and othe complaints have been voiced by other community members. Nothing changes. As for the bias. Online/offline. My only beef with that is in SB. Where EA almost every second week, injects a Rivals objective in order to complete the Daily or weekly objectives. This isolates the offline community from obtaining the over all objective. I understand that this comment can and probably is seen as a personal failure on my part. However. It's the obvious everyday, every game issues that are at issue here. Let's just call this complaint, as a call to EA, to address, these somewhat minor problems, so the game can run without community complaint.
Can you get me video of the offside issues you're seeing? I did not agree that those are being missed. I agree there are times icing isn't called when it should be though.
It would be good to see players laying on the ice. There is the one, very uncommon issue, where a player glitches and gets stuck sort of twitching on the ice. Otherwise, there are times goalies seem to be laying down too long, but I'm not noticing this with players so some video of this would be appreciated.
The interference calls I'm seeing are mostly caused by the human controlled player(s) when trying to shoot back loose pucks. There is the occasional AI one though as well. As I've said many times, we're aware of this.
Again, I get that having Rivals matches is frustrating, but you can also make up the lost XP collectible through HUT Rush. Almost every objective can be completed offline so I'm really not seeing a heavy bias in this area for online play.
Why are players allowed to walk through body position?
- EA_Aljo
Can you get me a video example of that?
- @EA_Aljo I've shown clips of the AI getting interference penalties ,interference penalties in this game same as last year are broken, either they can't fix it or have zero clue on what is interference...you know like getting slammed onto the ice infront of the net which is interference
- @Treatmentworke66 You can hit people in front of the net. They made it a thing as a way for people to counter deflections.
