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@Jammalammalam wrote:LoL. That was a rant and a half, wasn't it? I'm sorry guys, but can you imagine if they took the effort that went into creating a whole chel store, chel coins, and HUT money into actual gameplay features and additions before the release of the game?
Instead, as a defenseman, I get to enjoy this happening over and over and over and over. Gold Stick 'Em Up with a 90+ Stick Checking gets you absolute nothing. I'm trying to abuse the Hip-Check, but with this happening, what other options do I have? Can't really hit regular because that barely works since I have to have my speed/accel at 92 just to catch the speedy wingers. I'm not saying poke should always work, but my goodness, the forwards don't have to do anything but keep skating like the D isn't even there.
I’ll give my 2 cents here on that play. We have to keep in mind that we don’t have the whole situation of the context of the game and this is only a 3-4 seconds clip.
But from what we can see quickly, is that it was a bad play on both sides. That the end result went on the attacking player's favour. Cause of forward momentum like @KidShowtime1867 said. The puck got barely touched and it was unfortunate result for the D.
ATTACKING PLAYER: Played that very poorly. How can you speed down the wing like this near the board, going in a traffic area, without:
- Protecting the puck.
- Passing before getting hammered or stripped out.
- Dumping the puck in.
He looked clueless TBH !
DEFENDING PLAYER: Like I said, we don’t have the full context. Was there 20 seconds left in the game and it was all or nothing play ? Because, no offense @Jammalammalam but that play looked desperate 😉😂
In that situation, I would play like this:
- I would be way more patient a back up a bit, because you seemed outnumbered and I don’t think you have backup if he passes you by 🤔
- I would not hug the board. I would put myself between the guy that comes in and his teammate. Or even more on his teammate side and wait for his move.
- As a DMEN here, there’s no play to be done here along the board. More often than not, it’s gonna end bad.
Like I said that’s just my 2 cents, take it for what is worth 😀
Are we back to offense-defending here again?
It's funny that skill gap keeps coming up. Is there really skill In the example I gave, because it's so common for players to skate as fast as they can in a single straight line and the chances they regain the puck and/or the physics simply working in favor of giving the rushing team the puck back?
I mean, I know how we got here. Years and years of nerfing the defensive aspects of the game. They nerfed poke to take more tripping penalties. Then they thought that defense was too fast in keeping up with speedy forwards, so they nerfed the speed of the player when you poke. Then they went farther and said that you need to turn as if you were in sand when you pivot to keep up with those 93 Speed players. Oh wait, there's more. Then last year the stick-lift became almost an auto-penalty. This year EA has given us the gift of a stamina leeching meter that will take your stamina even if you're standing still, and all the opposing team has to do is put shots on net until your goalie is having a cardiac arrest. It's almost impossible to recover the puck because you can't move, pass the speed of a snail, and skate right over pucks in front of you when you're right "full pressure". How about we throw in the nerfing of zone clears as well. Trust me, I know where the skill gap is in this game when it comes to 6v6 play.
Anyway, do I really need to post 20 examples of forwards skating right into my body and maintaining puck possession? Do I really need to post 20 examples of forwards skating right at me that I challenge with 91 Stick Checking / Gold Stick 'Em Up only to have the puck and player magically go by me like I'm not even there? Do I really need to post 20 examples of forcing the offense to the boards to await a boarding, slashing, or my personal favorite, the player with the puck spinning away perfectly while hugging the boards and maintaining full position while I skate right by?
Because I will clog this thread up with gifs if you really want me to for sure.
- 2 years ago
@Jammalammalam wrote:Are we back to offense-defending here again?
It's funny that skill gap keeps coming up. Is there really skill In the example I gave, because it's so common for players to skate as fast as they can in a single straight line and the chances they regain the puck and/or the physics simply working in favor of giving the rushing team the puck back?
I don’t know if that part of the post was directed at me ? Because I was the last one to comment on the clip ? Anyway, I’ve clearly said that the attacking player was clueless…
ATTACKING PLAYER: Played that very poorly. How can you speed down the wing like this near the board, going in a traffic area, without:
- Protecting the puck.
- Passing before getting hammered or stripped out.
- Dumping the puck in.
He looked clueless TBH !
Again, maybe I’m not the best guy to comment on ONLINE 6's or whatever mode, cause I never play online, but that was a bad hockey play nonetheless.
- KlariskraysNHL2 years agoHero@PernellKarl027 I've almost given up giving my 2 cents on the play. If it isn't what they want to hear they just get angry. I try my best to explain why things happened because of how the game actually works and not how real life works because we're playing the video game and it is what it is.
Yes some things at times don't make good sense and you just have to say it's RNG at its finest.
Cause to me that video. You should be checking if you are lined up like that. If you were trying to play the puck you'd have been better off angling them towards the boards and squeezing them out of the play and poking.- Jammalammalam2 years agoSeasoned Veteran@KlariskraysNHL I have 91 Speed to try and handle teams that actually know what they're doing, because most teams have at least two forwards with Speed over 92. That means I have to be the smallest and lightest Two-Way D (I was the same back in 23). In 6's, regular hits are the least used because they don't work well and I had to switch from the default control scheme back to Skill Stick because for some odd reason, EA decided that the smallest pressure on the right stick should result in a reverse hit movement. This also means I can't one-button hip-check like 95% of other people in 6's.
So you want me to angle? https://runawaylegatus.com/majjama/roleplay/Furc/angling.mp4
Angling players to the boards does not hinder their movement or disrupt puck retention. Even when I use DDS to try and make a player go where I want them to go, even when I have about two player lengths ahead, the DSS slows me down so much that he blows by me while skating full speed into the boards. This is not a one off. This *always* happens. He's also doing all this while having half of the stamina that I have because he's mashing hustle. The boards are a safe haven and not a way to disrupt plays.
Interceptions? Even with Quick Pick on? Of course not. https://runawaylegatus.com/majjama/roleplay/Furc/intercept2.mp4
Bonus points to you if you can see exactly where my opponent forced a pass, I anticipate this, play ahead of the forward and still have my body clip through his stick as he gets rewarded by both having me out of the play and a clean reception. Double bonus points if you can spot the player fighting off a poke check and having the auto-magnetic keep it on his stick and then forcing a D-zone to O-zone pass *though* two defenders for a perfect reception.
Look, I get it. There's definitely a lot to be left up to chance in hockey, but for YEARS it feels like I've been playing against the GAME and not the PLAYER. Does that make sense? Like I'm playing against the meta, the broken mechanics, and that RNG you mentioned and not dealing with actual skill, not just *at times*, but it is a guaranteed constant.
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