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@BIGRlTCHY wrote:Not going to sugarcoat as from my own experience the toxic community is what is ruining this series. I'm saying this as someone who has also found ways to exploit the game to gain advantage. Although I only know a little bit of it and try my best to not play in a way that seems disrespectful. Seems the series is more catered towards the population of people who want to find cheap ways to get wins. I get there will always be flaws and exploits in a game but that is when some of these things need to be addressed asap and not wait until the next release. It's unacceptable given we pay a unfair price for a low quality product.
The AI positioning makes this game even more painful and exploitable. You can literally pivot by the boards in the O=zone until the opponents AI goes out of position leaving the human controlled player stranded defending by themselves while they struggle to player switch because that doesn't work as intended. Then all you have to do is skate top circle and shoot far side because an 88+ overall goalie can't save a beach ball...
These exploiting E-sports kids complain oh the goalies are too good and I can't score! Well you know why that is? Hate to say but it's because you are a one dimensional player who only goes for unrealistic cheap plays instead of use hockey IQ... But again EA caters to that crowd so here we are.
It honestly feels EA only listens to the top players and never to the rest of the community! I'm sorry but there are more than 4 members in the EA NHL community who count!
I know Mike thinks this game is in good quality but sad truth it's the worst it has been! Unfair to us consumers tbh!
Anyways please address the issues that many of us are talking about.
How are you complaining about exploits this year of NHL 24 and saying it's the worst game made when 23 had every glitch goals in the book. Heck you skated down the side of the net flick up and it's in on NHL 23.
Just be honest you don't like that you have to do more manual defending this year. You want the AI defense to attack thee opponent while you sit in the middle with ur centre.
- KidShowtime18672 years agoHero
@phomi99 wrote:Just be honest you don't like that you have to do more manual defending this year.
Ever since EA stopped allowing passive defending to be so successful, the complaints about 'defense being nerfed' have increased.
Many people got used to:
- just sitting in a passing lane
- mashing poke check with impunity
- charging a puck carrier and exploiting the suction-cup-hitting that forced puck carriers into a collision
- paying zero price for mismanaging their momentum in terms of skating, body positioning etc..
Over the years, EA has changed it so that:
- You need to be actively defending. Standing still greatly diminishes your ability to intercept/deflect passes
- almost an instant tripping penalty when poke check is used incorrectly
- Hitting changed to be timed, and puck carriers were given tools to avoid being 'sucked' into hitting animations
- Defenders now lose a step when mashing poke check
- an increased emphasis on taking proper routes allows people with real hockey IQ to get a 'step' on the puck carrier
That last point is something I never see brought up on these forums; routes.
The complaints of people saying a player with 75 SPD outskates my team of 90 SPD tells me that the player with 75 SPD is taking routes that don't involve stopping, starting or huge shifts in their body momentum while the team with 90 SPD is constantly stopping, starting and taking bad routes to areas of the ice.
Nobody mentions this. Ever. Not to mention that passing to a player in stride (who then utilizes puck pickups to accentuate their reception animation) will yield the exact same 'speed boost' that people claim to see from their opponents all the time.
I see people CONSTANTLY make a pass to a teammate and the instant that player receives the pass, he enters a backhand - because most players have learned that holding backhand gives you some protection against a hit.
However, doing so completely negates ANY speed and momentum that receiving player would've had.
- phomi992 years agoSeasoned Veteran
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@phomi99 wrote:Just be honest you don't like that you have to do more manual defending this year.
Ever since EA stopped allowing passive defending to be so successful, the complaints about 'defense being nerfed' have increased.
Many people got used to:
- just sitting in a passing lane
- mashing poke check with impunity
- charging a puck carrier and exploiting the suction-cup-hitting that forced puck carriers into a collision
- paying zero price for mismanaging their momentum in terms of skating, body positioning etc..
Over the years, EA has changed it so that:
- You need to be actively defending. Standing still greatly diminishes your ability to intercept/deflect passes
- almost an instant tripping penalty when poke check is used incorrectly
- Hitting changed to be timed, and puck carriers were given tools to avoid being 'sucked' into hitting animations
- Defenders now lose a step when mashing poke check
- an increased emphasis on taking proper routes allows people with real hockey IQ to get a 'step' on the puck carrier
That last point is something I never see brought up on these forums; routes.
The complaints of people saying a player with 75 SPD outskates my team of 90 SPD tells me that the player with 75 SPD is taking routes that don't involve stopping, starting or huge shifts in their body momentum while the team with 90 SPD is constantly stopping, starting and taking bad routes to areas of the ice.
Nobody mentions this. Ever. Not to mention that passing to a player in stride (who then utilizes puck pickups to accentuate their reception animation) will yield the exact same 'speed boost' that people claim to see from their opponents all the time.
I see people CONSTANTLY make a pass to a teammate and the instant that player receives the pass, he enters a backhand - because most players have learned that holding backhand gives you some protection against a hit.
However, doing so completely negates ANY speed and momentum that receiving player would've had.
Oh no doubt the traces of those rats still show in their gameplay today. The amount of people that turn to their backhand and glide is hilarious because now you just blow them up which is how it should be. They don't know how to enter the zone. I would say for every 10 games I play maybe 2 that you can tell have knowledge of basic hockey IQ.
What's actually interesting and something I noticed last week. The opponent's I run into with goalies 6ft4 and under know how to play but soon as I run into Markstrom or Sogaard I'm guaranteed at least 12min TOA. Then at the end of the game they have the nerve to say "pressure system abuser" . If you are going to sit back and let ur centre just be frozen in the crease, I'm going to cycle. Is it boring, Of course it is but you choose that situation.
- 2 years ago
@phomi99
I believe you wont be that long on this board because you're going against the flow. The nature on this board is to create complaints about the game not its users.
But for me you are welcome to stay, its important with different opinions for the discussion to move forward.
Keep swimming against the tide if you have the strength. ☺️👏Kidshowtime is doing a great job as a counterweight, worth saying. Not everyone can be a 'yes sayer'.
- 2 years ago@phomi99 As someone who plays defensively like I mentioned in my post I play manual defense to start off. It is annoying though when player switching and my AI defender takes off to the blueline making me scramble to defend as my other forwards are nowhere to be for outlets.
I don't even sit in the middle with my centre 99% of the time, as I attack in the Neutral zone and try to angle my opponents to the outside so I can body them at the line.
NHL 23 had exploits, but the pressure system wasn't there so it led to a more stable game IMO.
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