Nhl 24 the game for everyone and anyone.
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@thebrazenhead75 wrote:Now show a video of being able to do a flip dump on your back hand after your C wins the face off to you as a Dman that clears the zone in an EASHL 6’s game.
Club was busy last night, so I had to play a drop-in to get these clips:
@thebrazenhead75 wrote:It was very possible in previous years and a set play many used to clear the zone and also to spring your winger for a breakaway. It has obviously been nerfed to help with their “pressure” system.
Like this? It's not EASHL but the method still applies:
Not what I asked for.
Faceoff in your zone, quick backhand flip from the corner straight up the boards and over the blue line.
It was a set play that many used.
Your clips are different. They’re slow and the dump is diagonal. Those I know I can still do and haven’t been nerfed like what I’m asking for.
@thebrazenhead75 wrote:Not what I asked for.
Once again, I'm providing clips that show that flipping the puck works and once again I'm met with "no no no not like that, like this (insert extremely specific situation that if I don't execute it pixel for pixel in a clip, I'll be told I'm 'not doing it the way you asked for)"
@thebrazenhead75 wrote:Faceoff in your zone, quick backhand flip from the corner straight up the boards and over the blue line.
This IS the same play, minus the faceoff win (which is irrelevant) and this is on the forehand. Same exact rules apply:
and just to be clear - I've always said the current flip puck could use some more velocity, but it still works if executed properly.
Is the game really for everyone when it doesn't even have a controls or strategies tutorial?
@RatedxPGxEnigma wrote:Is the game really for everyone when it doesn't even have a controls or strategies tutorial?
Although a guided tutorial for each control mechanic would be nice, the ability to learn and practice the control is still available in NHL 24.
All strategy settings are explained in detail, including a diagram showing where each position should be, when you're adjusting them pre-game:
Control diagrams are also offered in-game and these can all be practiced via practice mode:
@KidShowtime1867Could you provide a clip of a high flip out which is used for many penalty kills in the NHL and also a puck over the glass penalty, which happens when the player is being pressured (result of a poor dump out using the high part of the glass)? That is a format that is be used defensively to clear the puck on a penalty kill or pressure situation. This is the issue I have with any of the dump mechanics is now for NHL 24 (which is not the case in NHL 23, and I am aware they removed it to make the pressure system valid but image telling an NHL team they cant dump it off the high boards/or flip it out high cause you will ruin the pressure the opposing team has. The pressure system can exist with this fundamental mechanic in the game.
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@MasterB89 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867 Could you provide a clip of a high flip out which is used for many penalty kills in the NHL and also a puck over the glass penalty, which happens when the player is being pressured (result of a poor dump out using the high part of the glass?I'm assuming this is a rhetorical question. There are no high dumps. What @KidShowtime1867 is done is adapt. He's showing ways to be successful with dumping the puck. It definitely takes more skill now. You can't just throw the puck down the ice and get a breather while the play resets. There's more strategy to it. You may need to utilize your teammates to clear the zone. Move the puck to find an open lane and shoot it down the ice. You can chip it off the glass as well.
I understand those long dumps are a part of hockey. However, they also completely negate the pressure system that was added this year. It should take some work to get out of that pressurized state. High dumps don't make that necessary.
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@thebrazenhead75 wrote:Not what I asked for.
Once again, I'm providing clips that show that flipping the puck works and once again I'm met with "no no no not like that, like this (insert extremely specific situation that if I don't execute it pixel for pixel in a clip, I'll be told I'm 'not doing it the way you asked for)"
@thebrazenhead75 wrote:Faceoff in your zone, quick backhand flip from the corner straight up the boards and over the blue line.
This IS the same play, minus the faceoff win (which is irrelevant) and this is on the forehand. Same exact rules apply:
and just to be clear - I've always said the current flip puck could use some more velocity, but it still works if executed properly.
It’s not the same at all. The faceoff is important because when you’re on the PK you don’t have the space and time to dump it out like in your clips. In your clips you don’t have an opposing Dman standing at the blue line along the boards. You also don’t have an opposing forward coming straight at you.
I’m talking about while on the PK and the faceoff is in your zone.
Defensive zone face off to the right of my goalie.
As a left handed Dman, my C has to win it straight back to me or even better to the corner. Then I can take a couple strides towards the puck ready to back hand flip it out as soon as I get it. Usually the opposing LW is forechecking me as soon as the face off is won so the puck is on my stick for maybe a second or two before I need to flip it out to not lose possession. Currently I can still attempt this but it’s not effective anymore due to it being nerfed to the point it only goes as far as the blue line where the opposing Dman can easily intercept it. Previously I use to be able to get it up and over the opposing Dman even almost to the centre ice line.
That is the difference.The speed and execution of this particular play is like the offensive zone faceoff (left face off circle) which is won back to your left handed RDman in the middle for a one timer. That hasn’t been nerfed though. I wonder why? 😏
