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@Beauts90 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@Beauts90 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867 wrote:
@thebrazenhead75 wrote:That is still the high flip dump I’m taking about.
I have a great idea: Head over to YouTube or another service you might use to watch game replays. Find a clip or two of a team in the NHL flipping the puck from their own corner and into the neutral zone that springs a winger for a breakout.
If you can show a real-world example of this precise exact flip dump that you insist needs to be buffed in-game, then we might be getting somewhere.
Obviously these are not from the corner, but almost all of them show a flip with more velocity than what you have shown in your videos.
Like I said and what keeps getting ignored: the flip dump could use more velocity. I've posted clips of the current flip dump doing exactly what you see in these videos, but I'm still told it's "impossible"
Maybe it’s too early in the morning, so I can’t find all of your clips, but can you please repost the video of you doing EXACTLY what is shown in example 1?
This banks off the glass, but I think we can agree we get the exact outcome:
There's no winger here for the breakout, but again - a flip dump up the side from in deep and out of the zone:
I'm slightly a little more up in the zone than Dillon:
Barron obtains the puck slightly before Dillon does:
But as you can see.. this is almost exactly identical with the differences being a bounce off the glass and the exact specific areas of the ice.
At the end of the day, there's s claim that high flipping the dump is impossible. I'm saying and proving that it's not. Then the goalposts get changed to "you can't high flip from deep in your own end" and then I go ahead and prove that. Then it's "you can't high flip dump from deep in your own end on your backhand instantly after a faceoff win to a winger streaking up the boards for a breakout" and then I go ahead and show how you can do exactly that. (albeit, omitting the faceoff win)
Then I ask for videos of IRL scenarios which was kindly provided. And those are great. They definitely show how velocity can be increased for sure. Something I was adamant about when this discussion first popped up back in November.
So now I'm asked to recreate the exact specific scenario in one of the clips and aside from some positional differences and the fact the puck bounces off the glass - I've shown you can get the result that's being asked for in this thread: clear the zone, get a possible breakout.
What's next? "No that's not it. I'm talking about a high flip dump from behind your net, on your backhand, after a faceoff win in the 3rd period on Tuesday in July" ?
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
Community ManagerWhat I believe is being requested is the old flip dump that went up much higher and didn't require banking off the glass. Where you could go from the corner to the opposite side of the ice and have the puck drop in the NZ. That just isn't possible currently.
@EA_Aljo wrote:What I believe is being requested is the old flip dump that went up much higher and didn't require banking off the glass. Where you could go from the corner to the opposite side of the ice and have the puck drop in the NZ. That just isn't possible currently.
I totally understand that and I don't deny that the old dump was higher. But you can achieve the exact same outcome with the tools currently in place, which some claim is impossible.
- @KidShowtime1867 For example one sadly, these are two different kinds of plays, one is a high dump the other is a low bank off the boards. Yes the outcome can be similar but there is more risk of the bank not working where a high flip out would not have that issue. That is my guess why it was removed. They want you to have a higher chance of failing so the opposing team can utilize the pressure system more.
@MasterB89 wrote:
They want you to have a higher chance of failing so the opposing team can utilize the pressure system more.This would imply that a flip dump is the only way to relieve pressure. Sauces, passes, bank passes, chips off the glass, flip dumps, carrying the puck with skill and precision... All of those are viable options.
@KidShowtime1867Not the only way but an easier and more efficient way. EA confirmed on here that it was removed cause it diminished the effectiveness of the pressure system. Hence why it would be removed. On the rare occasions I try to play NHL 24 now I have learned to use other methods to break out of the zone but under the pressure system the stamina loss doesnt warrant all you are mentioning depending on how long you are in it.
@MasterB89 wrote:
@KidShowtime1867Not the only way but an easier and more efficient way. EA confirmed on here that it was removed cause it diminished the effectiveness of the pressure system. Hence why it would be removed.I guess I'll just keep using this mechanic, that was apparently removed, to clear the zone and create breakouts for my wingers. Sorry ya'll have a hard time with it. Hopefully EA can buff it for you.
- @KidShowtime1867 I hope they do, it would make the game more fun.
@KidShowtime1867Then if that specific flip out was not removed or nerfed as you have stated please demonstrate it. I have not seen it yet through any of your clips? Taking personal shots at a person or player cause wr have an opinion on a play that has been confirmed removed is a bit odd.
- @MasterB89 That's normal for the guys who like the game. I'm polite to everyone. I am treated with condescension from the people that disagree. The passive aggressive shots at a wide group of players who disagree with the forum champions is sad. I just want a fun hockey game.
@MasterB89 wrote:@KidShowtime1867Then if that specific flip out was not removed or nerfed as you have stated please demonstrate it. I have not seen it yet through any of your clips? Taking personal shots at a person or player cause wr have an opinion on a play that has been confirmed removed is a bit odd.
LOL stop trying to get the thread locked and play victim to bullying. Nobody said anything personal about anyone.
I've posted countless clips of me using the flip dump to clear the zone. No, it's not as high and doesn't have the velocity it previously did. Not sure how many times I need to keep restating that. But it's still possible. Just because I'm not showing a 1:1 player movement and execution of IRL videos does not mean it's not as effective. I've shown that you can get the same results (clear the zone, create a breakout) when executed properly.
- @MasterB89 Or you can use the line change exploit ,that can still be some what still effective ,I get a lot of 2 on 1's and it makes a lot of these guys who use full attack to chane their strategy
- @Treatmentworke66 Thank you for the advice with it. Sadly I'm offline only so I don't think that will work against the CPU AI.
