Re: NHL 24 another year they dont listen to offline community

@Moxrox84 

This year's game is most definitely not a roster update. There's been a high amount of changes based on community feedback. I definitely get that it's not for everyone, but to say it's only a roster update just isn't accurate. There are a heavy amount of changes and so far, there's a lot of positive feedback.

We haven't had broken glass and hitting over the boards for the better part of a decade. I don't like how it sounds as if we're calling them new, but to a lot of people, they are. These are also 2 things the community has been asking to have brought back for many years now so hopefully, that is the important part rather than how it was introduced.

Agreed! This is by far the worst update I've seen to the game.  I love hockey and unfortunately this company has a monopoly on the game. I won't be buying 24. It's just not good. 

As an OFFLINE player only, 24 doesn’t entice me one bit… I’ve made 23 play to my liking. It wasn’t easy, good lord I’ve worked hard in the trenches.

Had hopes that 24 would ease the pain, but again seeing EA doing nothing for offline modes, removing stuff again and adding bunch of stuff on the ice as well is the icing on the cake for me…

Won't be purchasing 24 at all. Maybe, just maybe, will give it a try when it comes "free" on EA Play. Will get my hockey fix for years to come with my version of 23.

From a loyal customer that bought the game every year since NHL91 😒

And you know what, EA doesn’t care one bit. They gonna turn this game into Fortnite hockey, selling packs and season pass and stuff. That’s all that matters to them in the end.

@EA_Aljo 

There’s little doubt that there are a lot of gameplay changes, which I personally think are better suited offline than online. 
However,  for many offline players, myself included, gameplay is only half of the game. Some barely even play the games so it barely matters at all. Although not confirmed, by the sounds of it it does in fact seem like the only changes to the offline “modes” outside of gameplay will be a roster update.

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@Juhani_91_91 wrote:
@PernellKarl027Do you know what kind of updates EA Sports has made to the creation zone?

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@Juhani_91_91 

Nope… Sorry I can’t help you there. But, it doesn’t look promising just one bit…

Have you read the messages from disgruntled player's at all? It's clear you're here to defend your employer, NHL 23 was a roster update NHL 24 is going to be another roster update with some minor bells and whistles added to entice people to buy this year's roster update. Read the room, long time player's are upset with the changes and have made it clear. Listen to what they're saying, acknowledge the frustration give us hope you're listening and speaking on our behalf. Defending your employer and minimizing our collective voice is disheartening.

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@Beauts90 wrote:

@EA_Aljo 

There’s little doubt that there are a lot of gameplay changes, which I personally think are better suited offline than online. 
However,  for many offline players, myself included, gameplay is only half of the game. Some barely even play the games so it barely matters at all. Although not confirmed, by the sounds of it it does in fact seem like the only changes to the offline “modes” outside of gameplay will be a roster update.

 

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Adding to that, if the game play changes don’t mean the opposition AI shoots more, then my main gripe isn’t even satisfied. 

On the rare occasion I do play a game in franchise mode, I’m only playing the third period after simming the first two if it’s a close game and my goalie has already faced 20+ shots. 

I can’t believe anyone at EA plays Franchise Mode for maybe more than a season or two and it’s just such a bummer because it seems like they don’t have the slightest clue about the problems with the mode. And even when we explain it to them they still don’t seem to understand the impact the issues have on actually enjoying the game. 

If they do have someone working there who plays FM as religiously as several of us they’re either wildly unpopular and ignored or the quietest person on earth. 

Removing the hybrid control to force many offline gamers to learn a new control system is the same as you would force all online gamers to play in broadcast mode. 

Nice to see, that offline game modes are important so many players. Although online game modes are important, I wish, that EA Sports would also listen to offline players wishes when they developing NHL games. If they also listen only online players wishes, EA Sports lose lot of players that's why, that they not listen offline players wishes, but they develop the game for online players. When we watching patch-updates, who came to NHL 23, main part of those targeted to online game modes. In the first patch update EA Sports added some new gears for goalies and skaters, but nothing after that. If EA Sports not implement our wishes, a question arises, should we present our wishes here, when EA Sports don't care of them, beucause they don't target to the online game modes.

Would be better we would have two games. One for online and one for offline gamers. If they put 10% of their resources to offline and 90% to the online game it would be a huge step forward for the offline community. If we will get nothing for offline, it will be the third year in a row. Roster share not counts, cause has nothing to do with changes in offline modes directly.

@Juhani_91_91I don't believe they have. They told many things all the years, most doesn't happen.

@Juhani_91_91 

I think the biggest thing they have planned for the offline modes are to move them online.
It’s obviously the right decision, I just hope the base of the modes are getting some major improvements before then in order for it to always be functional offline.

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@Juhani_91_91 wrote:
@FroommeyI won't believe until I see, that they have done something concrete. @EA_Aljo said, when I sent direct message for him, that they have announced, there are long term plans for offline modes.

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Whatshisname, who said they didn’t put much focus on FM this year, said in the same interview that they have a three year plan. 

If they do plan on REPLACING FM with GM Connected then I hope I can still play GM Connected as a single player. I have no desire to play NHL with anyone. It’s my live-in-my-own-mental-bubble escape. 

Hello everyone,  

I'm strictly an offline player and only play franchise mode, glad the post was made,

The only thing I can think of is online is we're the game can constantly make money, as a business EA is attached to online players,  after the offline player makes the purchase of the game we no longer put money into it  , so I can see we're the focus for a business aspect can be.

I have a friend of mine that I was with this weekend and his son plays wwe 2k but is manly an offline player to ,but still pays money every month for content for his offline features , so it got me thinking. Not sure if this is were EA will eventually go but it had me thinking will happen since it seems with how the presentation went from full in nhl 22 to almost 2 seconds worth in 23.

This is just me making an observation NHL 25  the months of October after full purchase of game is made

for $19.99  dlc 1 pair of new nhl goalie masks , 6 nhl actual music themes used in arena , 4 new goalie equipment for the new season , 5 new intro for x teams

November pack 5 additional music themes used in arenas , 10 new intros for other x teams , new cut scenes and interactions

New equipment 

Another pack in December and another in January and that's it. 

So maybe $60-80 with more stuff included of course

Maybe a season pass for $55 or something ? For the offline and online players

I dont know this I just my thoughts and maybe we're it might be going. As always thank you.

@20Portugal04 

This really isn't so much about making more money off online players. The high majority of our playerbase is in online modes so it makes sense to prioritize those modes first. This doesn't mean that we don't care about offline players. It means updates for those modes was on hold this year so the online experience could be improved. Chances are good that focus shifts more to offline modes with online receiving less attention.. That's pure speculation currently since we haven't made any real announcements for anything past NHL 24.

I understand and much respect for you for always giving us the best answers that you possibly can , I know It can be tough at times.  I think many offline players just want to know asap for NHL 24 if we can go back to what was in nhl 22 for presentation and all that stuff and what the deep dive for offline will feature for this year, I'm sure in due time maybe once a week until the release of NHL 24 we will find out, I'm excited about the changes,  and looking forward to 24. thank you again for always helping and keeping us posted EA Aljo 

Moving every offline game mode to online so there isn't any other option than move to online player? I have this strange feeling that is will be the long term plan... 

Just pull the plug off already and don't leave us suffer here anymore and wishing for better tomorrow or should i say year? 

I bought PS5 and i was excited that i can play NHL with new gen console and i also had high hopes for NHL 24 that there will be finally something new and big changes for offline... Well that all was taken away at that day when i heard that there isn't HYBRID CONTROLS because i cannot use any other controls... Well played EA!

And after that i heard and saw that EA hasn't done anything or as less it's possible for offline it was the closure for me at least EVEN hybrid controls would come back wich i wont believe regarding to NHL 23 and taking away the possibility to use full presentation AND changing the REAL true broadcast cameras... Those both was REALLY wanted back in NHL 23 and they never didn't... Just don't understand why that OPTION had to take away when there was so much people who wanted use full presentation but everyone was forced to use condeced...

So this year taking away the hybrid controls is same (but even bigger thing because all the people that has disabilities including me) to force everyone to use skill stick or whatever those new ones are... I hope that all this pressure coming from hybrid control users that has disability and zero possibility to use any other controls would make a difference for EA to really put them back but still... I wouldn't hold my breath on that...

Is there any change at all to offline? Why I ask is I’ve read that offline creation has been tinkered with to make it easier and quicker to create players and teams. Which if true is good for those of us that create historical players and teams. I do feel the pain for those hoping for actual game modes to receive updates. Especially franchise mode or at least season mode. I too was hoping we could move into being able to have full control of these modes (control all teams etc).