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Re: NHL 24: My Final Review n More

@razor2rosary Much like what KidShowtime said the "luck" is kind of needed even in competition. Players like to get by with having low attributes because lots of the attributes don't have much value to them. Like me personally I'm not a fan of dekes not failing on their own.

When you think about it goalie is the biggest RNG of them all. Your goalie can let in a shot and you shoot that same shot 10 times on their goalie and it never goes in. I'm not asking for crazy bounces just some times for the puck to be on edge effecting shots, pickups in a scrum, and sometimes receiving a pass. I don't want pucks bouncing over sticks like crazy but I would like to see it maybe on a bad pass that is hard to be bobbled a bit.

Right now players have little reason to invest in some attributes because they just don't make a big enough difference.

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  • razor2rosary's avatar
    razor2rosary
    New Vanguard
    2 years ago

    @KlariskraysNHL wrote:
    @razor2rosaryMuch like what KidShowtime said the "luck" is kind of needed even in competition. Players like to get by with having low attributes because lots of the attributes don't have much value to them. Like me personally I'm not a fan of dekes not failing on their own.

    When you think about it goalie is the biggest RNG of them all. Your goalie can let in a shot and you shoot that same shot 10 times on their goalie and it never goes in. I'm not asking for crazy bounces just some times for the puck to be on edge effecting shots, pickups in a scrum, and sometimes receiving a pass. I don't want pucks bouncing over sticks like crazy but I would like to see it maybe on a bad pass that is hard to be bobbled a bit.

    Right now players have little reason to invest in some attributes because they just don't make a big enough difference.

    I would like to make it clear that I am personally for RNG elements, as I'm a sim/realism fan. It's funny how they could mitigate some of the issues with meaningless attributes by setting the attribute effect slider to "10" on their online slider preset.

    Speaking of RNG elements and seemingly useless attributes, I'm currently doing sliders testing regarding shot accuracy for my personal simulation league. Here are some stats:
    -> The average wrist shot accuracy rating for an NHL calibre-forward as of the final NHL 24 roster is 86.6.
    -> The NHL 24 default slider set has a shot accuracy slider of 55/100.
    -> In the NHL, forwards miss the net on average with 3 of every 10 unblocked shot attempts (31.2% actually).

    I did some full-length tests where I manually tracked the shot attempts for each game. With NHL 24's default online set, I was seeing roughly 8% of unblocked shots missing the net.
    It genuinely doesn't feel like shot accuracy matters all that much with the online defaults. I'm having roughly the same on-net % with Brayden Schenn, an 84 overall skater with 87 shot accuracy (basically average), as I do with 95 overall Matthews with 98 shot accuracy (best in the game).

    Man.

  • KlariskraysNHL's avatar
    KlariskraysNHL
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @razor2rosary I've asked for shooting in general to get a complete remake along with goalies at the same time so it can hopefully be more organic. But yes I'd love more missed net shots going for corners and
    deflections missing the net.
  • razor2rosary's avatar
    razor2rosary
    New Vanguard
    2 years ago

    @KlariskraysNHL wrote:
    @razor2rosaryI've asked for shooting in general to get a complete remake along with goalies at the same time so it can hopefully be more organic. But yes I'd love more missed net shots going for corners and
    deflections missing the net.

    It's really unfortunate. The more I dive into it, the more I realize how many shooting-related problems there are in this game.
    -> Shots are, by default, too fast (these slap shots are easily clearing 120 mph on base settings..which features a slap shot power slider of 50/100).
    -> The default settings for all shot sliders are awful. 50, 55, 50, 50, 50. That's one timer acc, shot acc, shot power, slap shot acc, slap shot power. Despite these being at the HALFWAY MARK for the sliders, the shots are too fast and too accurate.
    -> The shot accuracy slider does not have a significant effect - your shots are less accurate in comparison to where you're aiming, but you always manage to hit the net.
    -> I want to hammer home just how frustrating it is that the default accuracy slider setting is 55/100 and it genuinely feels like I never have aiming issues, no matter who I'm shooting with.
    -> The CPU has no idea how to take a wrist shot.
    -> The CPU has no idea how to use the Shnipe X-Factor.
    -> The accuracy punishment for shooting while fatigued or while being checked is NOT strong enough.
    -> The accuracy punishment for shooting while skating at full speed or rapidly moving is NOT strong enough.

  • par_metra's avatar
    par_metra
    Seasoned Adventurer
    2 years ago
    @razor2rosary by the way, how use Shnipe X-Factor?
    In my CHEL game, I've always skipped it since I don't quite understand its meaning or how to use it.
  • KlariskraysNHL's avatar
    KlariskraysNHL
    Hero
    2 years ago
    @par_metra Best way I could describe it would to be like... Close Quarters but farther out shooting from like top of the circles and such delivering a harder shot.
  • hiperay's avatar
    hiperay
    New Ace
    2 years ago
    @par_metra The way to use Shnipe is you have to be coasting for a bit with the puck in the 3 or 5 for RH(9 or 7 for LH.) for a small period of time before you shoot.

    And as for when we hear something, based on my research for this years other titles, we should hear something either tomorrow or next week either Thursday or Friday.

    If its this week look at an Oct 4th release date, vs an 11th if next week.

    Madden/College FB/and FC 25 have had trailers come out 53/55/57 days before its release so we are still 60+ days out if its an 11th release and right at the 53 mark if its a 4th release. I don't see the 4th release happening as that could mean we got a possible Sept 31 early access and I just don't see it happening but you never know. Either way we are still on average pace with the other EA titles.

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