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Re: What's wrong with Total Control, exactly?

@TTZ_Dipsy You shouldn’t get to just click a button for dekes especially when someone dekes the game is awful at pick pickups. It’s basically a get out of jail card for offense when they skate into a bad position they can just hit a button to get out of their mistake.

Back in the day you had to master each deke and it took practice and precision to do it right.

It makes playing the game less rewarding when the game just does everything for you.

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  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    @TasteofChicago91 

    Back in my day you had to wiggle the dpad back and forth and just pretend you were deking like the pros but yes, the golden days of manual dekes were definitely the best (one arm extend into a windmill was my favourite).

    I was never a fan of the one touch deke system because it felt like there was no fluidity to it - Total Control isn't exactly pushing any boundaries but I feel like just removing it wouldn't serve any purpose either.

    Feels like people are just lashing out after losing their literal 30 year old '94 controls

  • rabid55wolverine's avatar
    rabid55wolverine
    New Vanguard
    2 years ago

    For me, I don't think it should be removed but what bothers me is that things that are actually difficult to do in real life like the one handed tuck and the Michigan are tied to 1 button and are easy to pull off. If you can't do these things, then im sorry but you shouldn't be spoon fed an easier way to do them. The Michigan is complex in real life and is rarely attempted and should be that way. Someone scored it now and it's just another goal. 

    This is also coming from someone who can't do it in rhe game. If I really wanted it in my offensive game, I would learn how to do it and practice it, just like real life. 

  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    @rabid55wolverine 

    For one hand tuck all they really removed was L1. I agree things are getting too dumbed down/simple but *shrug*, not like it's all that effective anyway

    I attempted a Michigan, like, once and found it to be totally stupid - I reckon a lot of people felt the same way and EA was embarrassed they wasted so much time adding it.

  • Tigidooh's avatar
    Tigidooh
    Rising Ace
    2 years ago
    @TTZ_Dipsy

    For one handed tuck you had to hold left or right on your right stick then tap and hold L1 then tap R1 I beleive....still easy but isnt the minimun that should be requiered to do it anyway!?

    The problem is it create a gap between skill stick and total control...then ask yourself, whats the point of skill stick if total control do it all but more? And way more easily

    I would be fine if it was an handful of easy dekes like the one handed tuck and toe-drag but I still beleive it's wrong to have the michigan and hip check on one button...particularly because the face button hip check seems a lot more effective than the manual one from skill stick.

    Total control has a clear advantage over the other controls and that doesnt sound right to me.
  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    @Tigidooh 

    I only use Total Control for the 1 button hipchecks - I truly do miss the little leg kicks/fake shots that Skillstick offers.

    Hipchecks work just as effectively as before - The problem with skill stick was that the button combo is just plain awful and almost always leads to tripping penalties (it's not a skill issue, their animations and timing just don't jive with how fast paced the game is)

  • Tigidooh's avatar
    Tigidooh
    Rising Ace
    2 years ago

    @TTZ_Dipsy

    See? you use total control for the one button hipchecks...thats exactly what is wrong with that control. Pretty sure the one button hipcheck animation is faster on total control and way easier to do it at full speed.
    And again, hipcheck is kinda rare in real hockey so it should require a minimum of skill to use, now it's used left and right at will.
    Hold R3 then L1, a bit clunky but seem a lot more fair than what it is now.

    Leg kick is still easy, hold L1 then tap R3 😉   ....When fake shot require more skills than hip check lol..

  • SoupyNuttz's avatar
    SoupyNuttz
    Seasoned Traveler
    2 years ago
    @TTZ_Dipsy Considering hip checks barely exist in hockey, maybe a stupid button combo makes more sense?
  • TTZ_Dipsy's avatar
    TTZ_Dipsy
    Hero+
    2 years ago

    A lot of people seem to forget hipchecks used to soley be tied to R3 and it was never an issue.

    L1+R3 was exactly why old hipchecks were so awkward and caused so many penalties - it was such a stupid design choice and now that's how you do a simple fakeshot? So dumb. 

    I don't disagree its not a proper way of doing things but it is still a video game at the end of the day and needs to be intuitive for a sport as fast paced as this. Having to step 1 step 2, ok now step 3 to initiate a move just bogs the game right down.

    It's just really weird to me seeing so many people freak out about losing hybrid and 94 controls, yet they are adamant Total Control doesn't belong

  • Treatmentworke66's avatar
    Treatmentworke66
    Seasoned Ace
    2 years ago

    @TTZ_DipsyI have no problem using the old hip check, and I'm  57, but then again that's the world of today, everyone wants things easy and handed to them ,where is the pride in accomplishment even in a video

  • Tigidooh's avatar
    Tigidooh
    Rising Ace
    2 years ago

    @TTZ_Dipsy

    It was maybe a little awkward but still making more sense than one button. Which one is more used in real hockey, body checks or hip checks? they made body checks a bit harder this year but then made hip checks easier than body check, how does that make sense? It should be the other way around, it's just logical.

    Because 94 and hybrid were already in the game for so long and there's no real issues in keeping them because you're actually playing at a disadvantage when you use them and it's also needed for poeples with an handicap unlike total control that give you an advantage and is completly new so you're not locking poeples out of the game by removing this one unlike the other two old controls.

    I beleive the reason nobody was using the hip check before is not necessaraly because it was too hard to execute but because of how much easier and spectacular it was to go for a big hit, making the hip check pretty much irrelevant. Now this changed and I bet that more poeples would go for the hip checks than before (still less than big hits but in a ratio that look a lot more like real hockey).

    Hold R3 then press L1 aint that hard, just a bit of practice to get the hang of it.

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