Hi, i have question, how its possible, that i am playing SB against 69 OVR team, with 65 OVR goalie and i have problem to score a goal, low rating goalies catching almost everything, also you are in full pressure and goalie doesnt haas stamina, he is still able jump like kangaroo and catch goals to empty net. Also how can 71 OVR player has same speed as my Mcdavid with full stamina. This problem is every year, but this year is extreme. Can you balance it as it should be ? Or how is possible that player with speed 76 is able overskate my McDavid, also goalies doing unrealistic saves. Otherwise i am playing Team of The Week and i have no problem win 9-0. So what i am doing wrong, can you someone explain it ?

I literally said I am sure the player attributes don’t change. They don’t have to. If the AI changes to a better strategy, or uses different parameters to determine successful actions leading to a lesser outcome for the human, the AI “improved.”Perhaps I am unfairly reading your “feel free to post a video” sentence in the wrong tone, but it sure “feels” petty. No need for that. My comment was clear and rational. If I stated something incorrectly, please quote it so that I can correct it and own the error.

@EA_Aljo Instead of constantly asking for videos why don't you play just a few games. It's like everybody that reports a problem on this forum is playing a different game than you. Anyway, every time someone sends a good video proof of the problem, the video is either removed or you blame it on the way the person is playing. Like there's only EA's way to play hockey. By the way I lost 3-2 against a 69 rated team last weekend at SB after winning 5-2 against a 85 rated team at Superstar (I've only lost 7 games so far at SB this year). My team is rated 84. I decided to replay the game at PRO level thinking that I would destroy the 69 rated team. I lost 1-0, I couldn't even score a goal against a guy that would never play in the NHL. I had one shot in the entire 3rd period against a bunch of junior players. What more do you need?

@EA_Aljo So far though, in the several years I've been asking for videos of faster skaters being beat by slower ones, nobody has been able to get that.If you play that much then you know it's true but that's fine, you can stick to your propaganda "EA and the FC, Madden and NHL teams remain committed to fair play". I can tell you what else is true. I played hundred of thousands of games over the years and player and team ratings doesn't matter when you play HUT. Yes, if you have a higher rated team it helps wining more games, otherwise people would stop buying packs, but that doesn't guarantee a win no matter how well you play. That's why I stopped playing online. I just been playing SB since NHL 22 and the fairness of the game have significantly decreased over the years and a lot of people just gave up on complaining and sending videos. That doesn't mean the problem is solved. When I read customer reviews on XBOX and PS5, I can see that I'm not the only one feeling that "EA and the FC, Madden and NHL teams remain committed to fair play" is a real joke.

@EA_Aljo The game is not deciding when you win and lose.I have many videos that prove otherwise but I'm not going to waste my time uploading them since I know it's a dead end. You guy's at EA are well aware of it. Gamers that play a lot (those who have no life and spend 3,000$ on their HUT teams) are the bread and butter of this game. And these guy's are getting better every year so EA has to make the game more difficult for them otherwise they will get bored and stop playing. So yes, they will lose against lower skilled players every now and then.Casual players, if they keep losing game after game they will stop playing and that's not good for EA so they need to win a few on a regular basis to keep interest.That's what I meant by saying players and team ratings don't matter. When you hit the post 3 times in the same period, when you get scored on a garbage goal with 15 sec left in the game, when the opposing goalie makes a grand larceny save at the end of the game to prevent you from tying the game or when your own players are getting in your shooting lane to prevent you from scoring, when your players are reacting late on every play, and those are just a few examples. Keep in mind that this is a game so everything is programmed. Unfortunately, this recipe killed the game play. Not only the game feels unfair but it feels like it's cheap programming.

I think there is no purpose for AI to change strategies or take more risks (adjust game play) except to challenge the player more. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that, but it is definitely “improvement”. Anybody who has played sports knows that changing focus or strategies while behind doesn’t make an athlete stronger or faster, but can still change the game completely. If the trailing team wins, that’s “improvement”. Nobody is anthropomorphizing AI game play. But, anything that makes it “feel” like the AI is trying harder is also going to feel like “improvement” to the human player. If you make Shaq angry and he starts dominating you under the bucket, he didn’t get taller. But he definitely got better. At your expense.

Unbalanced goalies and low OVR teams

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808legacy84
2 years ago
Only thing i will add is on Superstar the lower rated players are way faster than they should be.
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
2 years ago
@NewStart01 wrote:

Often, when a human is dominating AI, little things happen that “feel” like the AI is getting advantages it didn’t before. The human AI teammates don’t check. The line changes at a stupid time. The goalie can’t save shots that it should. The AA opposition starts to make passes it didn’t even try before. Your idiot D man is out of position again and again. The computer wins. Of course, those things happen more often than we notice.

This is what we can agree to disagree on. What you're suggesting does not exist in NHL 24. Human AI teammates are not modified by the game to start playing worse and opposing AI players are not forced to artificially play better. They will change their strategies, which are the same strategies everyone has access to. They will also play more aggressive and take more chances. They are fighting harder when down, as real world teams do. Nothing is going on behind the scenes to force either side to play better or worse.

At this point, we've heavily gone in to ice tilt territory and need to lock the thread. This is why these discussions are not allowed as they just end up in a circle where we're repeating ourselves. There is absolutely no ice tilt, DDA, scripting, catch up logic, etc.

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