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jwaits
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2 months ago

“Flex cam” Goal Celebrations

Please, for the love of god, I beg of you PLEASE make it an option to turn off the “flex cam” goal celebrations. I seriously cannot think of anything more inauthentic and flat out annoying in the entire game. They look terrible, and I’m sorry, but nobody, NOBODY in the NHL celebrated goals like how the flex cam moments do. They ignore their teammates and stand in an awkward pose, and you can’t even skip it. Please please please please PLEASE make it an option to turn it off. The regular celebrations were completely fine the way they were! What was even the reason to change them? Come on.

    • I'm going to say this.  When it comes to WoC I like the dazzle stuff because it's just good silly fun.  I'm kind of a Flexpert on having a good time.  Gameplay is what speaks to me mostly as competition is key and everything else is just icing.  I don't need to see a replay of the same goal that will happen 500+ times in a video iteration.  I just want to get that W over my opponents and have bragging rights.

      • SpikeTJD's avatar
        SpikeTJD
        New Traveler

        Imo all the multicoloured skates gloves etc should be for ones etc. EASHL should be kept serious with proper equipment only  

  • nvb1w3hbesqo's avatar
    nvb1w3hbesqo
    Seasoned Newcomer

    I cannot agree more. Doing your own controlled goal celebrations were the best part of the game. The only thing I wanted more was to have team goal celebrations where you cellyd with your teammates. The whole Fortnite type celebrations are so immersion breaking. 

  • I wish instead of flex cam cellly we got a an option to hug teammates. In NHL 11 you had options for what each button does as a celebration (like we do now) but we also had the ability to press a combination of buttons to create a new celebration. Maybe EA can do a something where a nearby player can signal they want to celly and the goal scorer can press a button to initiate a teammate celebration .

  • I HATE the flex/tunnel cam celly but what I hate even more is that the millisecond after you score (right before that ridiculous celebration), just as the puck has crossed the line, we have the jarring, instantaneous full screen cutaway to the EA logo swoosh transition. WHY??...why do we need this??? Are there not enough EA logos on the rink...scoreboard...menus? Can we not enjoy just two or three seconds of seeing the puck nestle in the net?? And if we must have the flex celly, can't we at least get a straight cutaway from the score to celebration without the a EA logo screen in between? Makes absolutely zero sense, transitions are only logical before/after a replay, if at all. 

  • Greyinsi's avatar
    Greyinsi
    New Adventurer

    We need more team cellys, ice hockey is a team sports after all.. The message EA sends with these cellys I find it actually quite selfish and toxic.

  • ryandriscoll03's avatar
    ryandriscoll03
    Seasoned Newcomer

    I just read online that the goal flex cam in offline modes is no longer the default? And they have to manually be triggered by pressing Y or TRIANGLE. Is this correct?!?! Please tell me they finally fixed this to the way it was 2 years ago???

    • Bahamuta's avatar
      Bahamuta
      New Adventurer

      thats what the patch notes say lol.

  • Please DELETE EVERY "CELEBRATION" that this game has. They are ridiculous and stupid and those should not be in hockey game! Those are really mocking and does not give good picture for younger players! They see something stupid like this in the game and they think "hey i think this crybaby "celebration" ok to use in real life so i can use it in school or sports etc and get noted for doing that.

    Hockey is a great sport but you make it look really really bad with things like this that does not happen in real games and if happens... You get noted for unsportsmanlike behavior and this is not something we want to get younger players to see. 

    Please do the right thing and remove these totally from the game and focus something WHAT WE SEE IN REAL HOCKEY GAMES.

     

    • Bahamuta's avatar
      Bahamuta
      New Adventurer

      He is aware, and the devs are aware, The devs just dont care. They are trying to lure in fortnite players that will never play hockey into HUT. Franchise mode just gets screwed in the process. Full presentation gone b/c its takes to long. Everything is about grabbing a fad for a few extra bucks maybe but pissing off the actual long term buyers of the Franchise. I dont know anyone who likes the fortnite cellys, no matter what mode they play 

      • EA_Aljo's avatar
        EA_Aljo
        Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager

        This really isn't the case. First, we all care. That can't be said enough. As far as the design choice goes, I know there are many of you unhappy with it. There's also a very large part of the community the does like it. This franchise is 30 years old at this point. We can't just release the same looking game every year. That's something we regularly see comments on. That it's copied and pasted, looks like NHL 15, etc. Which, doesn't make sense since the complaints actually stem from the changes that were made. 

        We're not trying to upset the long term buyers. I'm one of them. I've been playing this game since the 90s myself. My hockey video game playing goes back before that. I'm not a fan of the design choices as well, but they don't take away from the game for me. I don't mind that we have them because my focus is on the actual gameplay. That's what matters most. Presentation is at the bottom of my list. The reason I'm saying this is to help drive the point home that we have a very diverse playerbase. Many want a game that represents what they see on TV while many others like the current design. Every single game I play in WoC has people using the intro animations and over the top cellys. If they truly were despised by everyone, I don't think we'd be seeing them get so much use. 

        If we only made a game that satisfied the hardcore crowd, you wouldn't see the changes that we have year to year as we have to also try to meet the needs of the newer generation of players. Hockey is a niche sport. Limiting ourselves to only the hardcore sim community that demands the game look authentic to a TV broadcast would most likely mean less changes each year.

  • EA_Aljo's avatar
    EA_Aljo
    Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager

    Yep. And it's still a hockey game. Not like we're running around shooting each other. 

  • I just prefer my hockey game to look like hockey. But, I also understand that I'm 30+ and am aging out of the demographic EA is trying to attract (young people). So, I can appreciate why EA makes the aesthetic choices they do. I just wish there were settings/options for how the game is presented. 

    • EA_Aljo's avatar
      EA_Aljo
      Icon for Community Manager rankCommunity Manager

      I've aged out of the aesthetic choices as well. Thankfully, this game is still very fun to play so I can live with the design choices. Also, I realize that today's young generation are tomorrow's veterans. We were all there some day. I imagine the guys from way back when have hated us just adding helmets to the game. There was a time when it was all organ music as well. I can't imagine the change in music would go over well. Then you have all the props and projections on the ice. Whether or not we all like it, the times change. We can choose to find some joy in it or we can let it ruin the fun. I'll take the former every time.

    • admiral745's avatar
      admiral745
      Seasoned Hotshot

      I am almost 40 and still enjoy playing, so demographic targets mean nothing in the grand scheme of things

    • KlariskraysNHL's avatar
      KlariskraysNHL
      Hero

      I'm well up there in age and I love the stuff for WoC.  My immersion is the gameplay.  Wearing fancy skates or having a fancy celebration doesn't magically change the gameplay which is what we are playing I would hope.   Now I completely understand the offline community does not like those things.

      • Bahamuta's avatar
        Bahamuta
        New Adventurer

        My real issue with the presentation is, why did they remove the toggle option that the game had in NHL 22? that was there and the best for each player type. Having options for what we want as a player base should be key.

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