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SturmWolfe
Rising Veteran
2 months ago

I feel like it's a flip a coin

Just to see if you or your opponent's computers are going to come to play. I set my strategies to forecheck and play high pressure defense. What do they do some games? Absolutely nothing. They follow my opponent around like a lost puppy and that's it. I will apply some pressure, place an extra forward or dman on my opponent to guarantee checking... Nope. Some games my computer will just flat out do nothing. 

My opponent on the other hand. They will be on my behind like a bees on honey. You will be followed and checked if you don't make a play or shot immediately. You don't make a perfect pass it will be intercepted. You don't make a perfect shot it will be blocked. And your own team mates will block shots for your opponent. Don't even mention the goalie. My TOTS Hellebuyck will allow in every 2 to 3 shots on net. While my opponent's goalie will make highlight reel saves. My opponent gets their ankle broken from me toe dragging passed them? No problem. Their computer will come over from across the ice and take the puck away. 

There's no balance to this game at all. 

Other games my team does the exact opposite and plays perfectly fine and it's "balanced". The game will feel like both teams' computers are performing properly. That is extremely rare though. 80% of the time it is one or the other. 

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  • SturmWolfe wrote:

    I set my strategies to forecheck and play high pressure defense. What do they do some games? Absolutely nothing.

    Who are you controlling in this forecheck scenario? I often encounter players online who are controlling one of their d-man as the first forechecker and they wonder why their A.I. is all out of whack. It's because when you pull players out of their position (which is why it's a skill to know the player you're controlling and what position they play) the A.I. will consume themselves with covering that spot rather than executing a forecheck. 

    I would challenge you to control a single player during the forecheck and make sure you're playing to that position. Now watch how aggressive your Ai becomes. It's night and day. 

  • SturmWolfe's avatar
    SturmWolfe
    Rising Veteran
    2 months ago

    I am between div 1 and 2 consistently every year. I get 13-14 wins in champs (when I am able to play more than 10 games in those 4 days). 

    I play positioning well and often bring back an extra man when my dmen start backchecking. 

    I will even switch to my goalie and make saves on the predictable far cross crease pass. 

    I do all the right things still something manages to go wrong. Like gold shutdown procs but the puck still bounces back to my opponent's (who is lower overall) stick blade. I dive block (my player has had enough time to go down fully) and the puck slides under my player... What's the point of having it in the game if it's not going to work as intended? I place my wingers on the forecheck on both sides when my opponent goes behind the net and when I go to apply pressure my other winger just skates away... Could easily press him into the boards and fish the puck out and keep the puck in the zone. Is that too much to ask? 

    It never used to be like this years ago. If you got beat it was because you actually made crucial mistakes. Gameplay was more balanced.

  • KidShowtime1867's avatar
    KidShowtime1867
    Hero
    2 months ago

    Ah, you're playing HUT. Expecting realism from that mode is a lesson in futility. 

  • dogheels's avatar
    dogheels
    Seasoned Ace
    2 months ago

    Yeah I agree. HUT is an afterthought when it comes to trying to make the game realistic. The AI controlled players on your team are completely different in reaction to those of the opposing AI team. Watching players veer away from checks. Non pursuit of beating out icing. And so on. You can only control one player at a time, which leaves the other 5 under the control of the AI. And in Hut. The players controlled by AI on your team. Dont match up to those controlled by the opposing AI team. Especially in the close checking aspect.

  • SturmWolfe's avatar
    SturmWolfe
    Rising Veteran
    31 days ago

    Okay? I also play OV and was top 100 for many years. OV is more sim but the same garbage happens when your compy decides to go for a skate instead of helping out. 

    The programming is messed up. They even tried to adjust it in one of the previous patches but I haven't noticed any difference. 

  • rsandersr47's avatar
    rsandersr47
    Seasoned Ace
    31 days ago

    To be honest I've not played much of either. Play what you're enjoying but I pretty much only play WoC and try to only play when everyone is human (unless we can't get goalies) it's a much more enjoyable experience. It's not perfect by any means, but the more you take AI out the better the game. Playing AI gets boring fast, you begin to anticipate their movements. It's stale. Humans can make better adjustments OR they can fully blow assignments (not that a computer won't, but it feels much more rewarding when you get a human out of position than it does skating around a cpu) I'd suggest you try that for a bit if you'd like something different. 

  • KidShowtime1867's avatar
    KidShowtime1867
    Hero
    31 days ago
    SturmWolfe wrote:

    The programming is messed up. They even tried to adjust it in one of the previous patches but I haven't noticed any difference. 

    Can you provide a video example?

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