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Ehh, not to defend how nasty the community was getting but from what I remember the staff didn't exactly handle it well either - I was told that there was nothing was wrong (the game is "perfect") and I was just bad at the game for example. One of the main problems people were having (and let's be honest, still have), is the sheer amount of red tape behind goings on and constant "we'll just have to see" replies that cause further frustration.
TTZ_Dipsy wrote:I was told that there was nothing was wrong (the game is "perfect") and I was just bad at the game for example.
I know for a fact nobody who argued with you said, "the game is perfect" and not once did anyone say, "you are bad at the game". The mere suggestion that, based on the videos you provided, that there may have been a slight misunderstanding of the controls is not in the same realm of saying "you're bad at the game" and you need to stop taking such comments as a slight on your skill.
TTZ_Dipsy wrote:One of the main problems people were having (and let's be honest, still have), is the sheer amount of red tape behind goings on and constant "we'll just have to see" replies that cause further frustration.
Red tape? It's a feedback forum. There are no documents to sign or push through bureaucracy. Much of the feedback (please note how I said much and not all) is absolutely a skill issue or, lately, it's been GPT generated 'feedback posts' where people think prompting Ai to "formulate ideas" constitutes real, actual feedback.
KlariskraysNHL wrote:When someone tells you the mechanics and why things are the way they are then you need to just accept it whether you agree with it or not.
Exactly.
People conflate being told how a mechanic works with saying this is exactly how it should be. Really goes to show the true intentions of some people aren't to get to the bottom of whatever issue they're having but to be told they're right and that's why the dev's stopped interacting here and I don't blame them at all.
KlariskraysNHL wrote:Too many think they will get a true authentic game but in reality the goal is more of a 80% real/20% arcade feel. It's just that 20% arcade is what people find a way to make a glaring thing.
Bingo.
TTZ_Dipsy wrote:When I get mad that a puck literally went underneath me leading to a goal even though I was in perfect position, it's just that my guy was *hovering 1 inch above the ice* and you explain the mechanics behind that, yeah I can accept that answer at face value but time and time again when it keeps happening, to me, it shows the team just doesn't care enough to accept the fault and try to fix it for next year.
How do you come to that conclusion before admitting that maybe you're not giving the player you're controlling enough time and space to intercept passes? If a problem YOU'RE having is seemingly going unrepaired (by your estimation) - then what should that tell you?
You conclude the "team doesn't care" before conceding a possible skill issue.
TTZ_Dipsy wrote:Our jerseys STILL change colours on their own.
lol what
TTZ_Dipsy wrote:The AI STILL hangs up on every faceoff in 3v3
Video?
TTZ_Dipsy wrote:they STILL let you just waltz past em for an easy goal more than a decade later.
Again, these scenarios aren't as black and white as you claim. Sure, Ai defending can lose a step to a speedy forward - but how was that forward allowed to gain so much speed?
- TTZ_Dipsy22 days agoHero+
We've been over this in DM's and public forum - I know you'll side with him as you claim you are buddies and that's fine, it doesn't change the fact it was said. Literally said the game was perfect and said maybe my team just sucked. I don't have the patience to sift through over a decade of posts on AHQ and Facebook to find the exact response so anyone is free not to believe me but I'll stay as sure as I've always been.
Red tape for EA staff responses - I've brought this up for years now spanning back to older forums; you know this.
Dude I couldn't care less about the struggle between authenticity and arcadeyness. It's a game at the end of the day and it needs to run and respond well (which it clearly does not). For example, just because Close Quarters is working as intended doesn't mean players shouldn't raise a brow and be mad when it's OP and abused like many other things in the game.
You can side with EA all you want but I'm here to say everyone should be fighting for change if they disagree with certain aspects of the current product - it's their right as a customer.
I AM LITERALLY NOT ATTACHED TO THE GROUND in the scenario I posted. I swear nobody watches any of the video evidence I post. I've had instances where our goalie does the right animation and should easily make a save but he goes against the laws of physics and quite literally hovers above solid ice, unable to do anything useful until a whistle. No defending it - this shouldn't be happening at all.
You must be a HUT only player then, I assume? Never once have you EVER had your team jersey reset back to default black and white? My blue chrome gloves show up as purple. The last team I played stains our jerseys with their colours in the locker room. The other team's goalie in Eliminator is wearing MY goalie's pads that I created. Even our logos can get swapped or made default Anaheim Ducks. This has been a thing since 15 and I'm just supposed to accept it? Wouldn't matter that much if I could save a jersey scheme but noooo.
You've seen my videos about faceoffs; you know exactly what I'm talking about. I wasn't allowed to record anything in the closed beta and matchmaking was a bust in the second test.
How is it not black and white? The AI is practically useless and the exact same thing happened in 26's tests so clearly it's gonna happen yet again for launch, especially now that there are more perks making players faster. You say that like it's my fault for not being able to be both a forward and a defenseman at the same time. You just hustle and that's that, they won't defend you. "Just have a whole team of humans" is only a bandaid bypass. The team should be looking to make a great offline game that translates well to online with balances. The trickle down effect would help with every mode the game has to offer.- KlariskraysNHL22 days agoHero+
Kid plays lots of WoC and we've maybe played 2-3 times ever. Me personally I've never once had my team jerseys changed to black n white or even changed from what I had created and I'm usually my teams owner each year. Worst thing that has ever happened was the lobby gets locked up and took some time to reset it. But I'm not saying these things don't happen. I also don't play silly modes like Eliminator or 3s because it's not hockey in the slightest.
The AI isn't meant to be that great in WoC And if you are playing 3s then there is no way in hell they could program them to be good defensively in the slightest with so much ice out there. Unless they program the AI to have ungodly attributes above anything a human can get they will always be a liability because of humans not playing what is deemed proper position and the opponent knowing how to get the AI to be dumb. But since you played the 26 beta you know what to expect from the AI.
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