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pinktonforprez
Seasoned Novice
9 hours ago

Turnover stats dont make sense.

I only play franchise mode offline, been trying different slider sets for years now to get gameplay and stats as realistic as possible without playing 20 minute periods.... the one stat I cant seem to figure out is turnovers. Giveaways and takeaway numbers are so inflated, more so for the takeaways. I play 4 or 5 games and all my players have career bests in takeaways. Ex... previous seasons Stateline says they got 28 takeaways in 82 games. I get that in like 5 games. After about a month,(12-15 games) everyone of my players doubles or triples any number of takeaways in any other year with supposedly real stat lines. The whole top ten in takeaways are my guys, even 4th liners who play less than 12 minutes..... why are these stats so inflated... giveaways dont always count as takeaways and takeaways dont always count as giveaways, In real life that is, some situations count as both a giveaway for offensive player and takeaway for defensive player. Not a huge issue with the game but its the one stat that I cant get to be realistic, no matter what I do with the sliders. Have everything else pretty close to realistic nhl stat lines, other then turnovers and the cpu games taking like 100 faceoff per game. Some players are taking 35-50 faceoffs per game. Most ive had was 67 total in one game and thats really forcing stoppage during gameplay.

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  • pinktonforprez's avatar
    pinktonforprez
    Seasoned Novice
    1 hour ago

    Oh hell no, I cant play 20 minute periods I dont have time for that.  I play 8 to 10 minutes periods. Just to get the stats somewhat realistic, compared to actual real life nhl averages.  Shots are between 20-35 each per game, hits between 20-30 per team, penalties between 2-6 per team, faceoffs are anywhere between 30 to 50 total faceoffs per game. However I also play as slow as you can play. My sliders are weird but I try to make it so gameplay is as reliant on player attributes as it can be. Everything is either at 0 or 100 depending on what it effects. I tried one 20 minute period and the stat lines were crazy. All im saying is that the giveaway and takeaway stats make it seem like every change of possession counts as a take away, instead of when a player actually takes the puck away via strip, check or interception. Like when you dump and chase, if you dont retrieve the puck, realistically thats a giveaway, not a takeaway for the defence. A inaccurate pass should be counted as a giveaway not a takeaway, where a good pass that gets intercepted by the opposite team should be counted as a takeaway and not a giveaway. Blocking a shot or picking up a rebound shouldnt be counted as a shot block and a takeaway, just a shot block. A shot missing the net should be a giveaway and not a takeaway. I know I sound insane , its just something that makes my brain tick. 

  • You play 20 min periods. Gotta be a long season for you. Try 4 min periods. Then check your numbers again. The CC games as an example, are roughly 3 to 4 min periods. Although you are trying to find more realism in the game. Extended periods like 20 mins, isnt going to give you that. Unless. Your simming your games. Even then. The numbers are never realistic. Its a game of zeros and ones. Not real life. 

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