What am I even supposed to do with this gameplay?

This mode promotes a huge dislike for hockey overall though, unless all you think hockey is goals and assists? 

I don't know if the developers know how frustrating it is to be scored on nearly every time your on the ice which causes your defense coaches score to tank. I just was playing a game and I'm trying to score, because that's the way they have it to get a good form score, and I'm up by their net. of course the goalie stops it and the other team gets a miraculous pass off and NO ONE IS PLAYING DEFENSE. everyone of my players were up by the net, even the other defenseman. that should not be. if a defenseman, for whatever reason, goes up to the slot or net a forward is SUPPOSED to cover his area. this hardly happens in this game, some times but 90% of the time it results in a break a way for them. I hate losing but I'll take a loss IF it doesn't kill MY form score or coaches score. that's the issue. I REFUSE to get anything lower than a 75 form score for a game when the "game" is designed on offense only and throws defense out the window. nearly every goal, 8 out of 10 goals, where scored when I was on the ice in the last 4 games. why don't the other team score when simulating? because my team actually plays like their supposed to. MY team scores 8 out of 10 goals when I'm NOT on the ice. that goes to show you the other goalie is amped up, which is a load of crap also. and it's hard to try and score anything when all the other team does is cherry pick. as soon as there is a loose puck in their zone, at least 2 of them go straight to the red line or close to my blue line, EVERY TIME. and I have to almost go into my zone because the other defenseman won't cover the other guy. and I'm talking EVERY TEAM does this. if there is a net battle behind or to the immediate sides of the other goalie, 1 to 2 of the opposing team players goes and tries to get the puck. MY teammates, who was closer than the other team, skates away and "goes to his position". literally lets the other team have it. very rarely will they go up. sometimes but more times they don't. and if I try playing a forward then that's even worse because I have to stay at the point (which is bull because I should be center and not a winger) and my defense and goalie allows everything to go in and I'll lose more games than win because of the amped up other goalie not letting anything go in. that game I just played showed it. I'm out of position because I tried to score. they go down, the puck carrier gets a pass through 3 of my teammates, my goalie was in the butterfly and the puck goes passed him to his right and a wide open opposing player scores. a few min later the EXACT THING happens on their goalie but guess what? he flies across and saves it. this is EVERY OTHER GOALIE but mine. every goalie can't do that. It's so frustrating

most of us ARE trying to play actual hockey but your game is not allowing us to. if I played ACTUAL hockey as a enforcer defenseman my form score would be around 50 or lower EVERY GAME unless I get a few assists. then when the game "decides" it's time for me to lose, who knows how low it will go. we can't play ACTUAL hockey because 1) we have to try and score to get a decent form score and 2) our AI teammates don't know what the heck they are doing.

I was talking about other modes. Apologies, forgot you only play BaP. Again, I'll pass on the feedback about form score.

EA_Aljo wrote:

I'm not saying they are perfect 100% of the time. There's obviously room for improvement. In general though, they are playing more realistically than a lot of humans that look to win by any means rather than play actual hockey.

most of us ARE trying to play actual hockey but your game is not allowing us to. if I played ACTUAL hockey as a enforcer defenseman my form score would be around 50 or lower EVERY GAME unless I get a few assists. then when the game "decides" it's time for me to lose, who knows how low it will go. we can't play ACTUAL hockey because 1) we have to try and score to get a decent form score and 2) our AI teammates don't know what the heck they are doing.

EA_Aljo wrote:

I'm not seeing the AI come out the hit animation any faster than a human controlled player. If you've got video comparing these, please post it.

yea I'll get one of me. and what I mean by the video is that he comes out and can maneuver faster than we can. I wish you would start a BaP character and you will see what we are talking about

EA_Aljo wrote:

AI players don't normally blindly throw passes and hope for the best. They look for open passing lanes. They had to pivot so they could see the play and make the pass.

my gosh, if you have a wide open net then yea blindly throw a pass or shot and hope someone's there. what's the difference if the other team pulled their goalie and your team is in the defensive zone, gets the puck and just flings it the length of the ice in hopes it goes in. the other team more than likely will get it or it will be iced. no difference. and if they don't blindly throw a pass or shot then it's not ACTUAL hockey. look a this video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1japf7r68o&t=2s

We're aware that goalies can accidentally knock the puck into their own net. This has been happening for many years. Improvements have been made over time. Obviously, we don't want this happening and are always working to make it less likely.

and you contradicted yourself here. first you say this then you say the AI plays more like actual hockey players

I'm not saying they are perfect 100% of the time. There's obviously room for improvement. In general though, they are playing more realistically than a lot of humans that look to win by any means rather than play actual hockey.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3xwIjHamEg

I mean like this video. look how fast that AI comes out of his "hit animation". I can't do that. I would still be in the animation and the puck carrier would come out and get the puck.

I'm not seeing the AI come out the hit animation any faster than a human controlled player. If you've got video comparing these, please post it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf8p53q7v6o

and this one. my gosh, a wide open net. goalie stuck behind his net so what does MY AI player do? he hesitates and "waits" for the goalie to get back then decides to shoot. heck, I would just throw the puck towards the net. I mean yea he was on a bad angle but geez, throw it the center even if it would have been picked off but not wait for the goalie to get back.

AI players don't normally blindly throw passes and hope for the best. They look for open passing lanes. They had to pivot so they could see the play and make the pass.

I will relay your feedback on form score. Thank you.

that might be the most ridiculous thing I’ve ever heard, have you ever decided to not pick a team and watch the ai “attempt” to play a game against each other? It’s an embarrassing excuse for what’s supposed to be a hockey game. 

I'm not saying they are perfect all the time. Obviously, there are times AI is behaving in ways it shouldn't be. They will generally play realistically though. Looking for good pass/shot chances, staying in position, adjusting their strategies, etc. 

I haven't watched a game of 2 AI teams playing each other though. If you've got clips showing poor play, feel free to post them. Regarding the OP's clip though, I'm not seeing an issue with this.

plain and simply the most realistic way to do that in hockey was through a stick check or poke check and in some way or another your game doesn’t award a correct defensive decision for no good reason.

 in that situation, the CORRECT way to defend that scoring chance is a poke check and your game doesn’t reward that.

I've seem complaints that poke checks are too strong from behind as well. Regardless, every poke or lift isn't going to be successful. There was a low percentage chance of these actually working in the video the OP provided. The best defensive play would have been to not let a breakaway happen to begin with though. Obviously, it's got a very high chance of scoring. Diving is risky, but was another option here. So is trying to shove from behind. Neither of which were attempted. This isn't burying my head in the sand. It's pretty clear to see they missed the poke and lift. The stick may have glanced off their leg, pushing it away from the puck. Unfortunately, the video isn't from the best angle to see this.

plus be a forward cause you have to score to stay in the NHL which should be the lowest on the totem pole in terms of a defenseman

The defensive play in this game doesn't really resemble actual ice hockey. That’s a fact. Just ask actual NHL players.

As a "EA" defenseman, your only apparent purpose is to be an object drifting between the opponent’s blue line and your own net—though, naturally, you also have to fall down occasionally and gift the opposition a breakaway. 

Once you realize that the mod on here only exists to gaslight you, then you realize that like this game, this forum is a humiliation ritual.