my pokes will go right through the puck carriers blade and nothing will happen.

In general poke checks are much better in NHL 27 than 26. But even in the short time since release I'm starting to see more and more plays where the outcome is looking more like NHL 26. Over the last couple of nights plays like in the clip below are starting to happen more regularly. Not all the time, but enough to be worrisome.Simple 1v1, the puck carrier doesn't move the puck, make no attempt to protect it and when the poke makes its initial contact the puck carrier only has one hand on the stick. But the poke still just bounces off and around the stick without touching the puck at all.

EA_Aljo wrote:I'll get it sent over to be reviewed. Let me know if you get any more of these.Thanks and I will as best I can. The replay system still frustrates me. It would be nice to have access to the entire game instead of just a subset. Often times plays I want to get a better look at are lost by the time the game finishes.EA_Aljo wrote:they hit the blade and push the stick out of the way. My initial thought is that they're using an XF that lets them hold on to the puck better.Does that not strike you as wrong from a physics or logic perspective? I get that it's a game and it won't always mirror real life exactly, but that is a textbook poke on an unprotected puck. The fact that first contact is the blade should be irrelevant. The blade is touching the puck and both should be disrupted. Instead the puck carrier ( who has one hand on the stick at the moment of contact ) is somehow strong enough that his stick and the puck remain undisturbed while the defender's stick is deflected away.I'm OK with XFs and attribute differences giving people an advantage on edge cases or plays from weak angles, but if it's going to allow players to shrug off pokes like that we'll be right back to NHL 26 gameplay by the end of the month.

It's in WOC. If adding a couple of points to builds on offence ( and we're adding points as well on the defensive attributes, it's not like we're static on our end ) at this early stage of the game's cycle is enough to break poke checks that doesn't bode well for the future of the game. I believe that teammate was running a TWD with 85 stick checking and defensive awareness. IMO, in the scenario shown in that clip, there's no build currently in the game that should be able to just ignore that poke like it didn't happen.

No amount of stats or x-factors should stop that puck from being poked. Offensive player just mindlessly skating right at the defender not protecting the puck in any way whatsoever, in no world is that clip an acceptable outcome. This is the exact same problem that's been in the game for years now, pokes like that need to work every single time.

EA_Aljo wrote:Yeah, that would certainly be nice. I imagine that's a technical limitation. I believe you're on PS so you should be able to capture up to the last hour of play. That's enough time for a full game. Of course, you couldn't go into the replay like you can in the game, but it's better than nothing.For the most part I dislike using raw gameplay footage for feedback. There's a couple of problems with it that are mostly due to the fact that I play with the overhead camera. First, more often than not when I'm able to use the in-game replay system to look at a play that looks wrong or odd during play it turns out that there's a completely reasonable explanation for the outcome that wasn't immediately obvious due to the camera angle. Secondly, due to the camera angle it makes it too easy for people to make assumptions about what's happening or dismiss legitimate problems due to lack of a clear look. I know it's nowhere near the same thing, but my kid plays Fortnite and he's able to watch full replays with complete control of the camera for his last five matches. I know it's very unlikely for there to be an overhaul of the replay system, but I think it would be an amazing tool for getting better feedback from the community.EA_Aljo wrote:Also, while the carrier has one hand on the stick, they very quickly grab it with their other hand. Which would stabilize it more and give them a better chance of keeping control. I also don't think it's outside the realm of possibility that a professional player could maintain control of their stick in a situation like this.That's the moment of impact ( sorry it's washed out ). The other hand doesn't come into play until well after. If you want to tell me that one vs two hands on the stick is just an animation and has no bearing on puck control in the game I'll believe it. I'd argue the devs should look at making it matter down the road, but I'd accept it as a game mechanic at the moment. Either that or this guy never skips wrist day at the gym.And I'll agree that XFs and attributes need to matter, but they shouldn't matter to the point where defense is helpless. I've been really enjoying how effective, in general, our defensive tools have been in NHL 27. But I'm starting to worry that that effectiveness has been an illusion created by playing against players with limited attributes and XFs rather than an actual improvement to the game mechanics. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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PlayoffError
Hero
26 days ago
It's in WOC. If adding a couple of points to builds on offence ( and we're adding points as well on the defensive attributes, it's not like we're static on our end ) at this early stage of the game's cycle is enough to break poke checks that doesn't bode well for the future of the game.
I believe that teammate was running a TWD with 85 stick checking and defensive awareness. IMO, in the scenario shown in that clip, there's no build currently in the game that should be able to just ignore that poke like it didn't happen.
EA_Aljo
Community Manager
26 days ago
Hey there. Was this in WoC? Players are unlocking additional AP caps so builds are getting stronger. That could be the reason you're seeing this more now. Regardless, I'll forward the video on.
PlayoffError
Hero
26 days ago
In general poke checks are much better in NHL 27 than 26. But even in the short time since release I'm starting to see more and more plays where the outcome is looking more like NHL 26. Over the last couple of nights plays like in the clip below are starting to happen more regularly. Not all the time, but enough to be worrisome.
Simple 1v1, the puck carrier doesn't move the puck, make no attempt to protect it and when the poke makes its initial contact the puck carrier only has one hand on the stick. But the poke still just bounces off and around the stick without touching the puck at all.

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