4 years ago
Contract Insanity
Could you please look into the contract issues? Once we you get 5 to 7 years into Franchise, all of a sudden your Low Elite Potential, 3rd line Forwards, who are getting 3rd Line Minutes are asking f...
Its not young guys asking for a lot of money - What you are talking about it a common bargaining tool.
The issue with the game is that if you play deep into a 25 year Franchise, you start to see playing getting paid 17 million for 1st Line Players, then the 2nd line players want 12 million and the 3rd line players are asking for 7 million. It becomes impossible to actually keep a team functioning that way.
Example, I had a Top 6 F ranked at 86 at 28 years old - He had 50 points in 82 games (and a couple injuries) He was me 12th best player, but fit the Line Chemistry perfectly. He wanted 14 million for three years. My 95, 22 year old Franchise player only wanted 5 million for 4 years, and my 38 year old Top 4 D who had a 78 overall wanted 11.2 million.
Some players don't make sense in the contract they ask for, and others ask for obscene contracts and your can't negotiate, or offer rolling increases, or anything like that. When you start off with 80 million and by year five you hit 100 million in cap, and the slalries dont' adjust you start to price out players. I made it so season 23 once, and had my AHL level players (70 to 74) on my 3rd, and 4th Lines as well as my 3rd Pair in order to afford my starting line. About 20 players with 85+ overall, stayed on the Free Agency List as they wanted 18+ million dollar contracts.
I have never really had an issue with contracts being outrageous. Salary Cap goes up, guys ask for more money. Makes sense to me. lower tier players play decent, they ask for more money. makes sense to me. now with that being said... I am in the year 26/27 with the Devils and coming off a Stanley Cup win. Hughes is 25 years old and has been a consistent 70pt player during this contract. he is up at the end of the year, he will be 26 and a RFA. this is where it gets interesting. he wants anywhere from 12.5 to wait for it..... 19m per year depending on the length of the deal. that would be equal to or more than Mcdavid.... who is a 100pt player every year. 19m.... thats insane. never seen anything like that
@SilentAssassn25 Wait until you 4th Line 78 over all asks for you 8 million for a 7 year contract. I'm telling you, I'm in year 23 of a 25 Franchise with the Seattle Kraken and my 4th line highest ranked person is 68 overall, because its the only way I can afford having my top 2 lines with combine salaries are 82 million (1 Franchise player, 1 Elite player, 3 Top 6 Plays, and 2 Top 9 Players_
The young players starting 3rd season I bring up with high 70's ratings have extension available not having played a single NHL game yet want 10-12 million as a low to medium elite potential player. This is an unproven NHL player who in no way should be asking for that kind of money. The patch didn't fix this issue. Veteran players who had decent season aren't asking for as much but the RFA players want top 5 NHL contracts.
@grkubYeah I can’t believe this still hasn’t been fixed.. like IrishOwl said.. having a 68ovr being the highest player on the 4th line because 1 franchise, 1 elite, 3 top6 and 2 top9 takes up 82 cap space.. that’s just insane… there is no NHL team that has 6 players taking up that much space.. I’m not sure what the ceiling is in IrishOwls game.. but I doubt it’s 160 million because on average teams only have 35-50% of total cap spending for their FWD groups… only a few teams had 55-60% such as the coyotes but they also have 10M in cap space.. and they took canucks bad contracts lol..
I just looked up all the stats on capfriendlt website to make a comparison just to show how awful the EA NHL 22 game logic is with contracts…
It depends on lots of factors.. but really.. on average, 4th liners should be 74ish-80ish players.. with league minimum contracts, plus 500k to 1.25ish M..
for example let’s say leave minimum is 1M… on average, your typical 4th liner should make 1M.. to maybe 1.5M.. but a good role player and trustworthy 4th liner that might also play decent PK minutes might get 2M.. or 2.25M.. situational of course.. now instead those 74-80ovr players are asking for 6-10M… that just doesn’t make sense… especially if they haven’t played NHL games yet…
I just don’t know how I can take a quick look at stats and contracts and percentages etc… and know that something is VERY wrong with the contract system… but this happens in the game.. and there were lots of issues in NHL 21 too.. with players asking for absurd contracts.. it wasn’t THIS bad.. NHL 22 is the new NHL 15 lol..
@heavydutyrammer wrote:
@IrishOwl Crazy bad contract logic.. well every logic in the game is bad lol.. 3 weeks since last EA reply for this.. and it won’t be fixed this year anyways.. honestly I doubt it will be fixed next year either…
Only time ANYTHING is going to get fixed is IF the Franchise Mode gets a revamp… I say IF, not when lol… because at this rate I expect them to completely cut the Franchise Mode out of the game before actually fixing it..
There were changes made around this in the December update. Old save files prior to the update won't receive that change because they are save files that are in progress under a different build. Like @IrishOwl's friend said it's been better in newly created Franchises. If you come across any odd contact situations let us know. There could always be a player asking for a ridiculous offer like they could in real life. They sometimes try to talk themselves up. I personally wouldn't see that as a bug unless it's seen regularly where adjustments should probably be made.
@EA_Blueberry wrote:
@heavydutyrammer wrote:
@IrishOwl Crazy bad contract logic.. well every logic in the game is bad lol.. 3 weeks since last EA reply for this.. and it won’t be fixed this year anyways.. honestly I doubt it will be fixed next year either…
Only time ANYTHING is going to get fixed is IF the Franchise Mode gets a revamp… I say IF, not when lol… because at this rate I expect them to completely cut the Franchise Mode out of the game before actually fixing it..There were changes made around this in the December update. Old save files prior to the update won't receive that change because they are save files that are in progress under a different build. Like @IrishOwl's friend said it's been better in newly created Franchises. If you come across any odd contact situations let us know. There could always be a player asking for a ridiculous offer like they could in real life. They sometimes try to talk themselves up. I personally wouldn't see that as a bug unless it's seen regularly where adjustments should probably be made.
Franchise Mode
- Added strategy templates that get generated for draft prospects
- Fixed an issue where CPU teams did not sign Elite Low potential prospects that they drafted
- Decreased salary expectancy boost for players when they have high performance seasons
- Decreased trade value boost for 34yr+ goalies when they have high performance seasons
- Decreased X-Factors trade value impact
- Fix for the Play Next Game tile not showing the matchup on the HUB after the trade deadline
- Fixed a crash when starting a 32 Expansion Franchise with custom rosters that has created players under franchise
- Misc UI Fixes
Clarification to existing save files prior to the update:
Existing save files should reflect this change in any new contracts that are offered.
Hey @EA_Blueberry I noticed its better still not great. I'll let you know if year 15+ this starts to get ridiculous again.
Any word on updating the player overalls, potential, and position on the Default Roster?