Junior season nonexistent
Product: NHL 21 Platform:Sony Playstation 4 How often does the bug occur? Every time (100%) Steps: How can we find the bug ourselves? Play the game What happens when the bug occurs? Can’t play i...
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As someone who steers clear of offline modes when they can, I found removing juniors to be akin to trimmimg the fat and a rather nice breath of fresh air. I understand the logic behind working your way up through the ranks but at the end of the day i'm sure the vast majority would prefer a more streamlined process.
I figure the team felt the same way and just wanted everyone to dive right in to the new story mode they made. No harm no foul I say; with a few tweaks here and there I think everyone will be happy next year. Others have expressed concerns with trimming leagues/modes so it's definitely something worth still considering.
I think you'd get more support on reddit or the main fprums since they have a higher population
@TTZ_Dipsy Since you don’t even play offline modes not sure you know what you’re talking about.
The “story mode” is awful. It forces you to be the same thing every time. You’re either a forward superstar or a defensive superstar. You can’t play the role of a grinder or checker. You can’t be an enforcer. You’re stuck playing as a 120pts+ a season superstar.
There’s no challenge to the game, there’s no reward for your efforts. You’re simply rewarded for doing the bare minimum.
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The juniors wasn’t just “fat”, it was a core process of becoming a pro. Do you know any players that were drafted in the NHL that didn’t play any form of hockey before getting drafted?
I've played plenty of offline, been doin since NHL 96 - That said, yes if it weren't for trophies I wouldn't play those modes at all (I stopped after 500 points because breaking Gretzkys record would be boring).
You're playing against bots - there was never a tangible reward outside of regular completion satisfaction, which you still get. Most players are impatient and would like to jump through as few hoops as possible.
Difficulty can always be adjusted via sliders so juniors is just fluff until you reach the true goal - NHL; the way I see it, they're just speeding up the process. I completely understand your argument as a simulation player, but the game as a whole has obviously started to shift towards a more arcadey feel for mass appeal.
I hope for the hardcore simmer's sake they can get to a point to add absolutely everything to create a 100% authentic experience, but there are other modes that need attention too.
Is story mode bare bones? Sure, but its more than we had previously; a good first step on the road to something truly great.
All the dialogue options, all the animations, art, screens etc. was energy taken from other areas like the EASHL that I care about so we just gotta roll with the punches.
In real life, yes, juniors is obviously important, but from a game standpoint I personally just think it's just filler, fluff to pad game time with - Franchise, BaP, GM mode... people even want referee modes, its basically all the same.
I'd like everything to eventually blend together so there can actually be a reason to participate in it all - finishing juniors, winning awards etc can all give added boosts and accolades to your players in online modes.
- @TTZ_Dipsy Yeah I won’t ever agree with you on that point because I think it’s an awful point.
It’s true that they are just appealing to the mass of entitled players that don’t like the realistic idea of grinding to become a good draft pick. They just want to be picked first overall without putting any effort in. That’s what happens in this game.
But that said, it’s pathetic they’re appealing to the masses instead of staying true to the realism that BAP offers. If you want arcade games, go play HUT, or 3s or whatever the online garbage modes are. Let us play our offline modes in peace, without having them turned upside down and ran through the garbage disposal. Paid $80 for this game and there is no point in playing it because they took out the only good aspects.
The juniors isn’t fluff. It was a vital core of the BAP experience.
Like I said, no one jumps to the NHL without playing junior hockey IRL.
Play through a full season and you’ve already seen all the dialogue options. Then it gets recycled and redundant. Not a whole lot of variety there.
Playing against bots can be rewarding. Difficulty up, grinding and proving yourself to be a #1 through an entire junior season. Fell to 70th overall? Well then bust your .. in the preseason/AHL to prove your nhl worthy.
Now this game just coddles you and it’s more of a “oh no, haven’t scored a point in 7gp? Here have a night off and try again tomorrow”
No realism in that. You’d be sent down right away to try and find your game.
If the AHL existed in BAP, that is.
And no, I don’t want it to blend together. That’s an awful idea.
That will make BAP an even worse game mode than it is now. Because then it’ll be used to skip ahead into the online modes. It’ll be even more watered down than it is now, so that people can play through it quick just to get to the online modes.
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