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painisawarning
4 years ago
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Can we have a serious discussion about the nemesis system?

Can we discuss that dumpster fire that is Grid Legends nemesis system? @EA_Kent @CM_TGK  The current implementation does not work. Design wise and code wise. In theory, the design sounds OK - you ...
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    CM_TGK
    3 years ago

    Thank you for your feedback on the Nemesis system.

    We have identified a bug whereby the Nemesis state of AI wouldn't properly decay between races, as intended. This has been resolved internally and will be updated alongside DLC 4.

    From that update, if an AI isn't antagonised during the closing stages of a race, there's a good (60%) chance the Nemesis state of that particular driver will be forgotten.

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painisawarning
3 years ago
@T16R0N AI driver roster differs between rookie, semipro and pro divisions.

I don't really have nemesis in rookie and semipro, but pro... oh boy.

Also, I finished my career few patches ago, maybe with a fresh save things look better now? I have no idea.
The fact is, that I can't get rid of my permanent nemesis of pro division AI.
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T16R0N
3 years ago
@painisawarning Probably you are right about the rooster. Though I am now playing in semi-pro, I am actually facing Ravenwest, Seneca and other drivers marked as PRO.
Have just finished 2 more races in semi-pro career - 1 time attacks and 2 circuit races on trucks.
Time attacks were pretty tough, as you cannot actually see the enemy time before the race finish (as your actual enemies race in another batch). I remember something similar was Dirt Rally 2.0 qualifiers. There I had a couple of red guys, but I actually never faced them on the truck. Finished 2nd.
In truck races I managed to trigger one red. Though in general, they never made it to me since the 1st truck race was in heavy rain in Yokohama Docks and almost all AI opponents just ended the race in the ditch. 2nd truck race was in San Francisco. Just one hidden red get triggered (the same AI I hit in the previous race) but since it left far behind, by the end of the race they all got back to normal.
So, most likely, the situation gets out of control when you go extreme - too many reds in one race. And this is what the DEVs need to address.
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    painisawarning
    3 years ago
    @T16R0N When I played my pro series, it didn't matter if I make 1 or 5 nemesis in a race.

    The one that I created stayed nemesis forever. So it just accumulated race after race. It's very easy to bump into someone, since AI cars tend to crash just in front of you, and if you fail to avoid them - boom, nemesis.

    I didn't pay attention to that, so I never bothered to rewind/restart when creating nemesis, because I though they would forgive me at some point... but they never do, with this broken system.

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