3 click swing feedback on power

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:
@TriumphRiderPutting is a totally separate discussion to at least everything I've said above. I don't think there is any equivalent to the dispersion zone in play for putting although I'm open to being corrected.

I'll be honest and say I'm not 100% sure what you're trying to demonstrate with your videos though, so mark me down as however clueless you feel is appropriate 🙂. I'll be curious to see what anyone else thinks.

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So watched them and thought...looks normal to me? 

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@Ultrasonic_77 wrote:
@TriumphRiderfor context are your videos from before or after the latest update designed to improve the putting experience?

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From an hour ago when I was playing. I described in detail what is happening.  Like you mentioned, I want someone to watch them...read my explanation...then EXPLAIN how I am seeing this wrong.

Also, I play this game probably 5 hours or more a day at the moment. Not crazy but a good amount of time. I'm not just talking out of my rear. I have literally experienced this as we have been replying to each other, real time.

Feel free to ignore my posts...rants...whatever they may be called. I can certainly show vids and explain, but everyone is entitled to their own "explanation" of what's happening.

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@TriumphRider wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77Check these out...these are from an arcade tourney.

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/EVWLXL97DL
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/RGBHYLW8J3
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/YZ78R5DCKK
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/24XHDZ4MUX

Regardless of tourney type, mode of play, etc...ball physics, putt reads, green grids, etc SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONSISTENT. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but those are mine. CONSISTENCY makes a great game, regardless of how hard or easy it is.

All of these examples (regardless of the putt being made or not) has something wrong in them. Usually it's the way the ball reacts. In one of them I made the damn put but on the way to the hole the ball literally shimmies back and forth...in what damn world does that ever happen to a super slow putt???

The reads are astronomically off in some of them too. Like absurdly. Please, OH GOD PLEASE, do not mention the infinitesimal degree of ball lie...because in the 100,000 other putts I have accomplished it never mattered.

So...if you watch these and don't think ANYTHING is wrong...well let's agree to disagree, and go our separate ways, hahaha.

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You're over hitting putts on all those videos (or at least the 3 that are not private). The Putt has to be on the line in order for it to be consistent yet you're over swinging every time. The last video you also have the marker quite far past the hole despite it being level, this also means you're putting far too much power into the shot itself. 

Try lowering the camera angle to the lowest one so the putt meter is closer to the camera and you can dial it in more easily. 

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@theycagednon wrote:

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@TriumphRider wrote:
@Ultrasonic_77Check these out...these are from an arcade tourney.

https://www.xbox.com/play/media/EVWLXL97DL
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/RGBHYLW8J3
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/YZ78R5DCKK
https://www.xbox.com/play/media/24XHDZ4MUX

Regardless of tourney type, mode of play, etc...ball physics, putt reads, green grids, etc SHOULD ALWAYS BE CONSISTENT. Everyone is entitled to their opinions but those are mine. CONSISTENCY makes a great game, regardless of how hard or easy it is.

All of these examples (regardless of the putt being made or not) has something wrong in them. Usually it's the way the ball reacts. In one of them I made the damn put but on the way to the hole the ball literally shimmies back and forth...in what damn world does that ever happen to a super slow putt???

The reads are astronomically off in some of them too. Like absurdly. Please, OH GOD PLEASE, do not mention the infinitesimal degree of ball lie...because in the 100,000 other putts I have accomplished it never mattered.

So...if you watch these and don't think ANYTHING is wrong...well let's agree to disagree, and go our separate ways, hahaha.

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You're over hitting putts on all those videos (or at least the 3 that are not private). The Putt has to be on the line in order for it to be consistent yet you're over swinging every time. The last video you also have the marker quite far past the hole despite it being level, this also means you're putting far too much power into the shot itself. 

Try lowering the camera angle to the lowest one so the putt meter is closer to the camera and you can dial it in more easily. 

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Ok, I'm going to try to understand your explanation here...because I'm quite aware of what I was doing by putting "too much" into the swing.

So am I to understand it that overswing can't be used to a player's advantage? OR, when something doesn't go a player's way we get to just use it as an "explanation". This also an example of a problem putt in my opinion...I have made several others using the same adjustments.

Listen I can appreciate your point of view but let's take a look at this first putt again

1) So at first glance, the first grid lines move left slowly but are moving. The next set of grid lines are BARELY moving right, almost at a stand still. So the putt SHOULD move left more, correct? So why does it go right on a straight swing with over power? Saying over power makes things move in opposite directions would be wildly ridiculous...and against physics, which I happen to keep stating since EA used it in their hype video but everyone ignores.

2) You say the putt has to be on the line for it to be consistent...what line are we referring to? The actual shot line is wrong as in several of the other videos. If I hit a "perfect" shot, meaning speed then my shot would have went further right according to the game which means the shot line is WRONG because the line showed the ball going LEFT.

3) I used overswing to push through ANY and ALL break. That's the point. Golfers do this all the time. So this "line" you are referring to...is it the power line or maybe my swing? Well, my swing is straight as a damn arrow. It's literally shown on the video. So what exaggeration would there be on a completely straight swing with a little extra power (1.1% to be specific) on a 6-7ft putt? Are we seriously the 45 degree angle this thing took like 2 inches from the cup is in anyway accurate? 🙄

Again...I get the excuse, because that is what it is an excuse, of "if you are not in a perfect swing speed the shot is exaggerated", but on a 6ft putt??? Hahaha. Exaggerated how exactly, where the shot can do literally whatever it wants? That's a HUGE get out of jail free card for a developer. At that point no shot could be questioned. 

I get you are offering a differing opinion...however if I was to show you 50-100 other putts where overswing worked to my advantage, and very rarely on a putt does it not which is why i do it, would you still use the same excuse? Also...something that evades a lot of folks is we are talking MINIMAL power 1% or less most of the time.

On the fourth video you mentioned the marker was past the cup "quite far". Well, I guess the video throws thing off but it's only like 1 foot past the cup really...not too far. Also, half of the putt was actually uphill as referenced by the grid lines rolling towards the ball. In arcade mode from my experience, the actual marker isn't far off SPEED wise (i usually don't mess with it in arcade mode)...directionally is a whole other story.

From what I see you and ultraviolet offered insight...but from the video I see grid lines, speed, swing line, etc and the only thing that is jacked up is the ball making an unimaginable right before the cup. Which I still haven't read of an acceptably valid reason as to why...because every argument I have read works against the person in several other ways, as does overswing...ball should move left according to the shot line, BUT moved right.

When will will look at a video and say...yea, that's not right. There may not be a fix, but yea, that's messed up.

What im telling you is you are approaching those shots incorrectly and over swinging every Putt, it's that simple. 

I wouldn't approach any of those shots in the way you did, because I know it would result in the shot missing. 

Below is a link to a thread I started yesterday (that rather unsurprisingly on this forum hasn't had any engagement), in the thread I posted my best round, that I did on Tour Mode with no shot arc or putting guide enabled, during the US Open on Career mode with a 12mph wind. Based on that I can tell you that im able to consistently hit Putts from a variety of angles in order to get a low score, on one of the more difficult modes. 

https://answers.ea.com/t5/General-Discussion/The-post-your-best-round-Thread/m-p/12495031#M3035

Go and watch Tony Turbo's Youtube channel and see how he sets up for his putts and the methodology he uses, it's vastly different to yours and he is consistently scoring under par. 

I understand you don't want to accept any responsibility whatsoever for the missed shots, and its all the games fault etc, but perhaps if you could move past that denial you might actually start improving how you approach the shots. 

I'll use the 4th video of yours as an example, its level so you dont need to move the marker past the hole at all, even move it back a little, you also then over swing the shot so both together result in removing the break from the ball, yet you still played the break, it was missing all day long because of poor technique and nothing more. But hey, keep shouting at people on here who are trying to explain this to you, it's not going to hole the shot.