@drewgriffithsI played the free play days on Xbox and 2k23 is complete trash. GUI, to graphics, to music, to swing mechanics, to putting, it’s complete trash.
I honestly can’t believe HB Studios is unable to improve. It’s their worst golf game to date. Look at the reviews and let them speak for themselves.
With that said, what’s unreasonable from me? I’m an end-user with a plethora of experience and citing not only myself, but also the voices of countless people that unfortunately paid for 2k lol.
Those that wish for extreme challenge are a minute % of the EA player base so it’s not accurate to say it’s hurting sales. Making the game easier clearly speaks to a wider player base…it’s basic business. It’s always been that way, make it easier more new players are likey to buy your game.
Also, this is EA’s hardest game to date. I never missed putts in TW like I do now and I was ranked very well then so I clearly have a high level of experience to reference. At my worst, my record was like 250-10.
2k doesn’t nail anything, it’s terrible from top to bottom. All the negative reviews agree with me that the swing mechanics are terrible. Don’t take my word, have a look for yourself.
I’ve played both and if you think EA doesn’t trump 2k on every level, we have nothing more to discuss.
@RodSirloinYou present one opinion, yours. I think it is a bit presumptuous to believe we can speak for others.
2K23 is different, it is not my favorite game in the series. They did something to the putting in 2K21 that exists in 2K23 that doesn't register my putting stroke for shorter putts. I believe it has something to do with the deadzone in the controller. But I appreciated that 2K23 increased the green speeds and how much the ball rolled out.
Regardless the GUI is functional as well as the graphics... I believe we are here more for the golfing experience over the pretty pictures. Though I do appreciate the pretty graphics, but lets be honest they are not up to what the Unreal Engine is pushing out these days.
The swing mechanics are fine, the tempo adds another layer of difficulty to the game. 2K doesn't need an artifical oversized dispersion zone to emulate difficulty in the game. Difficulty in 2K is all based on execution... though I would welcome a small layer of dispersion to add a little randomness to your shots.
I find those complaining about 2K are those that are unable to play the game. The Golf Club in their wisdom developed a game for everyone. Those that hate it seem to not be able to get past their ego's and disable features to allow them to hit straight.
I will play on LEGEND in 2K just to hit more bad shots to make things seem more realistic. Even playing on MASTER settings I don't hit that many good shots in real life.
I find it enjoyable trying to figure out how to make a par on a hole where I didn't hit the green in regulation. And I find it rewarding and gratifying when I do, unlike in EA.
The 2K game rewards you based on your execution of your shot like in real life. The rough is penal, but I don't think is penal enough, shots also get more difficult to execute in hazards. You lose spin coming out of the rough, the greens play faster with more roll out.
If you leave yourself above the pin in the rough with a green sloping away from you, stopping the ball anywhere around the hole can be a challenge. Unlike EA where you can flop to within a few feet and have it stick.
In 2K you will have to play the ball where it lands, unlike EA you don't get a magic placement in a better spot. And you also don't get a ball that finished in the rough, end up in a hazard.
2K is by no means perfect, I personally hate the speed of the swing. I thought it was a huge mistake to increase the swing speed in 2K21. I believe distance should be controlled by loft, swing length and swing speed. 2K has made partial shots almost impossible to execute. Both games use a reticule to basically point where you want the ball to go. But at least 2K gave those that want to disable it the ability to do so.
I think it is pretty obvious that a lot of players are losing interest in EA PGA, as you can see the fall off in the tournament support.
I have played golf games since the mid 70's... I cannot say I have played them all but I would be comfortable saying I have at least tried 95% of them. I am sure a few slipped through the cracks over the years.
I bought and supported the The Golf Club series since it's inception and played on a regular basis until the release of the EA game.
I now feel I am a man with no country. After 3 months away from 2K I realized there is a significant skill set that you learn to compete in that game. The inconsistent swing speed of the animation bothers me, especially when it happens when you are trying to make a short chip shot.
Neither game is perfect... but at least 2K opens things up to all level of plsyers.
My final points are that in my opinion the demographic you want to cater too is the more serious golfer. They are the ones that will play the game day after day until the next release. This is their thing... the casual gamer will move on to the next shiny object in short order and there is no guarantee they will buy another golf game if a new Diablo is released at the same time.
But you know diehard golfers are waiting to consume anything in that genre. And they have the monies to do it.
2K without question in my a opinion a better golfing sim at this point. EA plays far too much like a Mario Golf game.
I'm just hoping EA will created a bridge to include players of all levels to enjoy their game.
@IXOYE56 wrote:
@ELF014"EA Sports, it's a Game" I agree with you, but I have no hopes.
Is that still their motto?
Back when they arrived in the marketplace as Electronic Arts, I truly believed it. They really did take innovation to another level... I really miss those days. They never disappointed back then. I don't ever remember thinking that something was wrong or missing. But then back then you couldn't just send a patch out. The games were in cartridge form and you had to get it right the first time.
@ELF014 Absolutely agree with ALMOST everything here except the partial shots in 2K because I’ve been able to execute them wonderfully just like in real life. I played a round today at my home club which is on 2K21. I’m on a par 5 and my 3rd shot disappointingly drops short of the green, 40 yards from the hole and i was saying to my mate that I actually prefer 65/70 yard shots so I can smoothly pitch it close with my 60 degree lob wedge and having a 40 yard shot makes it awkward for that, so I instead opted to chip it with a 7 iron…. I only holed it for a birdie 😆. First thing i said was “Maybe I should start liking that shot more!”😆
2K makes you think about your shots more like a real golfer than what EA does. I honestly find myself playing 2K and thinking about shots exactly the same way as I do on the real course. EA doesn’t make me do that, I can just hit shots nonchalantly and move on.
