EA PGA Golf dying a slow death?
I actually believe it is generous to say it's slow... I was really excited for this game and wanted it to succeed in the worst way. My personal opinion is that we stay engaged in something if it c...
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@ELF014 wrote:
@CanukWolfI don't disagree with you overall. But I believe the majority of people have leveled up as far as you can go and the game is far too easy to play.
Even with no specs or skill points assigned, you can shoot low scores once you understand the intricacies of the game.
I believe 98% of us have shot 59 or better in this game, regardless of the difficulty settings.
Playing with friends on-line has become pretty much a birdiefest.
I personally enjoy figuring out how to get up and down when I have put myself out of position. This game doesn't offer that... it is far too easy to place the ball inside 5 feet of the flagstick once you are 50 yards away.
Serious players will/have dropped off... and it is this core group that gives games longevity. They require challenging gameplay and an environment to compete with like minded individuals. Things this game is currently missing.
I'm hoping someone upstairs is taking notice. I'm not bashing the game or the developers... just trying to get them pointed in a better direction.
I think it is pretty evident the exodus has started and the game is not quite 3 months old.
for most people this is an e-sport where competing against other players is why they are here. Whether that is in online tournaments or head to head. And off the bat that can be frustrating for the avg to lower skilled players being that the game has a very small playerbase and no match maker rating system. But what the score is in relation to real life golf, literally does not matter. This is a video game. But The most requested feature by monstrous proportions on this forum and reddit since launch is turn based multiplayer, they have yet to agree to add it. Before that it was 3 click which they did give us, although mysteriously don't have online matchups for 3 click so it was pointless to add and I guarantee all those players went back to 2k sports. I personally kept requesting that quitters in the online mode forfeit for a loss and don't deny wins of the other players. Claiming disconnection issues has absolutely nothing to do with EA and is the players problem. It seems this is now the case so I'm grateful for that and my hats off to EA. It seems they snuck this in quietly and I'm grateful.
Only things I really want now is turn based head to head online matches. Just like they have in the ai offline modes. And a way to chat with other players during the game on the pc. The fact this game has no social aspect and no turn based head to head modes is simply astonishing. I honestly think they made this game out of nostalgia and really don't care how popular it is. They made it for people like you, not realizing that golf is still a sport even in a video game and they seemed to have no idea what makes a sport a sport at the launch. And they knew people like me would buy it anyway out of nostalgia since I been missing it for 15 years. WGT and 2k golf never had that same graphics and play control feel and I play this game every day.
@RichAC wrote:
I honestly think they made this game out of nostalgia and really don't care how popular it is. They made it for people like you, not realizing that golf is still a sport even in a video game and they seemed to have no idea what makes a sport a sport at the launch. And they knew people like me would buy it anyway out of nostalgia since I been missing it for 15 years. WGT and 2k golf never had that same graphics and play control feel and I play this game every day.
I have no idea how you can say the game was made for people like me. Other than the graphics, career mode and challenges (nice idea but has no staying power since the rewards mean nothing after you have maxed out your character), there is little reason to play the game.
I think the swing and ball mechanics overall are terrible and ill conceived.
I do understand your point about scoring against what is in real life doesn't matter, and that may be true competing against live competition. But against an AI it would be nice to mimic actual PGA scoring as this is the experience we are wanting to emulate. Rather than the birdiefest this game is regardless of the difficulty settings.
EA needs to find a way to ramp up difficulty so that the career mode stays viable. Not sure how on-line play is going to seperate the competition if everyone is making birdies on every hole.
And I mean ramping it up based on the players skill level, and not through an artifical method like a random dispersion zone. Something else I would like to be able to disable in the game.
- @ELF014 If you’re getting every single birdie, every single eagle on every single course during every single play, you’re just a good player.
I can’t do that, my goal is to do that because in the old TWs what separated the men from the boys was who could hole out in a match. If you missed a birdie or eagle, you lost and that’s how it should be.
You can’t reasonably request more difficulty to make it harder for you being exceptionally good at the game because it’ll ruin it for everyone else who’s not in the top 5%.
So what happens if they make it harder then you master that…you want it harder again? When does it stop? There is only so much they can do to make the difficulty reasonable without added terrible mishit factors like HB Studios did. I couldn’t even get FIRs on a regular basis. It was the worst!
Start holing out every match, that’s what the next level should be for you. That’s the way it’s always been and how it should always be.
Literally, this is the hardest version of golf EA has ever made. I’m very close to getting all birds and eagles 90% of the time after two maxed out players playing four rounds per tournament, but damn man I miss putts regularly. I could hit a putt from anywhere on the TW series. I was hitting aces, hole outs like crazy back in the day, not now.
I really hope they leave difficulty alone. At the end of the day we have to be reasonable and leave it enjoyable for new players. I think you’re just bored man and need some online ranked play with maybe some CC stuff too. Careful what you wish for bro.@RodSirloinNo... while you are allowed to have your opinion, I have to respectfully disagree with you.
Missing a birdie or an eagle isn't what should be separating whether you win or not. Making a birdie or an eagle should separate players. In case no one explained this to you, but PAR is the expected score on any golf hole.
The game as it is now makes career mode irrelevant. As I have said previously, I am pretty confident 95% of those that are playing this game have shot sub 59, and many have done this at the hardest difficulty settings.
I have no issues making a game this easy for those that want it. I am just lobbying for those on the other end of the spectrum looking to keep the game viable.
Looking pretty is only fun to be around for a fleeting moment, we need some substance. Apparently that timeframe is about two months.By the way bro... playing in a birdiefest is boring to me, I would much rather be trying to figure how I can get up and down for par or bogey because I got myself out of position on a hole.
This game has 20 shot types, and I have not found any advantages using more than about 8 of them.
- @ELF014 Of course missing a birdie or eagle is what should separate who wins or not, that’s how the game works. True mastery is who can hole out or not while covering a certain baseline of play, it’s the facts of this series and always has been.
If you have no issues with making this GAME easy for those that want it easier, why do you keep saying GAME instead of the desired mode? Maybe lobby for a harder sim or tour instead of the entire game? Pro and Amateur are fine and shouldn’t be touched at all, with putting fixes pending that is.
The facts are, this is the hardest EA golf game to date from the TW series 2006 and up. The harder they make the core game, the more new players will be turned off. Those are undeniable facts.
I find it boring not competing against live human competition. But I guess thats just me. Well I think thats most people who play pc games, but it feels like just me in this forum thats for sure lol. I treat this just like real golf, while you want it to BE real golf which I hate to tell you. is impossible. But the problem for me is the same problem for all of online gaming for the past 15-20 years. The anonymity and the fact people don't respect or treat it like a real sport. So a handful of rotten apples always dominate and ragequit the playerbase. For me there was no point in buying this game since I'm simply "not good enough" to even compete anymore. It was great right before this latest patch before they introduced turnbased they did something to increase the amount of players in faster que times. It was great I was getting foursomes for the first time since launch, so it didnt matte as much if one of the top 50 was in our group. I still had a schance at a win or draw stat with the other 3.
But now, that me and many others were crying for turnbased, the game has now died. Because now its match play and you can't even dodge these guys that are "just way too good" to play against since they also removed the countdown before it starts to prevent that. And if i'm not playing against the top guys, i'm getting the dreaded "unable to find a match" most of the time. So its a case of "be careful what you ask for" To me this is the worst state the game has been in and it must be blamed on the current changes imo. The best state the game in only lasted a few weeks before they changed it. its kind of sad at this point.- @RichAC I only play online with friends. But can't you play Strokeplay events?
EA really needs a handicap system in place to filter similar skilled players... maybe with an option to open up the filter if you have difficulty finding a match or if you are willing to play people significantly better than you.
Say it is based in handicap groups of 5 strokes... if you can't find a match... you could include opponents that are 5 strokes better than you... or 10 strokes... etc.
And ratings would be based on the strength of your opponents. Which I assume may already be happening.
@ELF014 wrote:
@RichACI only play online with friends. But can't you play Strokeplay events?
EA really needs a handicap system in place to filter similar skilled players... maybe with an option to open up the filter if you have difficulty finding a match or if you are willing to play people significantly better than you.
Say it is based in handicap groups of 5 strokes... if you can't find a match... you could include opponents that are 5 strokes better than you... or 10 strokes... etc.
And ratings would be based on the strength of your opponents. Which I assume may already be happening.I gave up on the game. I mishit alot now for some strange reason and everyone just hits perfect shots. i was like 95-80 record before the lm match play patch. I always considered myself an avg gamer. But now I can't even come close to a winning a match. stick a fork in this game. Same old problem for the past 30 years with online gaming. too many unicorns lol.
Shame on me for even wanting turn based match play, it only helped to kill the game faster. woops.
