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- PalomaMarvel242 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Katybee_1313 wrote:
@PalomaMarvel24 wrote:I am guessing EA has conceded the golf genre to 2K like it did with Basketball. That is possible reason game is now selling for $10 and no investment in improvements is made. The investment has been more focused on Madden, EA FC, NHL and UFC.
Exactly what I think Paloma. There's not enough money to be made in a golf game for EA, they're going to budget lots of resources for games giving them top revenues like Madden, FC and UFC. And like one of my kid told me, golf is grandpa sport... it made me feel so old. 😞
The revenue for golf games was great during Tiger’s Heyday. That was one reason more investment in golf games were made. If another Tiger comes along, golf would be the cool thing like how I remembered during the early 2000’s.
If EA didn't thlnk there was a good chance to make money in a golf game they wouldn't have ventured into this endeavor.
But I believe your not wrong, based on their last effort it probably wouldn't take much for them to drop the title.
- Katybee_13132 years agoSeasoned Ace
@ELF014 wrote:If EA didn't thlnk there was a good chance to make money in a golf game they wouldn't have ventured into this endeavor.
But I believe your not wrong, based on their last effort it probably wouldn't take much for them to drop the title.
I read somewhere 2K was bragging they sold more than 2.5M copies of PGA 2K21, and that's when EA announced they were making a new golf game. It would explain why EA paid and went all in with exclusive licenses for the 4 Majors.
Anyway, I have accepted this game for what it is. It has a great career mode compared to 2K, but game play has taken a backseat. It is dial a distance because that's the only way to have an arcade game, They added RNG like in TW11 to make the game more difficult. It frustrates many players, but it's not enough for Sim players who have been playing golf game for hours every day for 20+ years and can score -25 every round playing blindfolded with their toes, it's no challenge for them.
@Katybee_1313 wrote:
@ELF014 wrote:If EA didn't thlnk there was a good chance to make money in a golf game they wouldn't have ventured into this endeavor.
But I believe your not wrong, based on their last effort it probably wouldn't take much for them to drop the title.
I read somewhere 2K was bragging they sold more than 2.5M copies of PGA 2K21, and that's when EA announced they were making a new golf game. It would explain why EA paid and went all in with exclusive licenses for the 4 Majors.
Anyway, I have accepted this game for what it is. It has a great career mode compared to 2K, but game play has taken a backseat. It is dial a distance because that's the only way to have an arcade game, They added RNG like in TW11 to make the game more difficult. It frustrates many players, but it's not enough for Sim players who have been playing golf game for hours every day for 20+ years and can score -25 every round playing blindfolded with their toes, it's no challenge for them.
Though golf games don't make the same revenue as other major sports titles, I believe there is money to be made in them. As you said 2K21 is a prime example.
I feel both games have a dial-in distance built into them, which is why I play without the aiming reticule in 2K.
To me RNG is a gimmick to create artificial difficulty into the game. It can unfairly punish someone who actually executes a good swing.
I don't play hours a day... but I have played on an average of 6 hours or so a week for the last 9 years.
I feel I can manage my game pretty well, and execute enough shots to be considered capable... but don't consider myself exceptional.
I go out of my way to configure 2K to shoot around par, on a good day I might shoot -7. On a bad day +7...
With EA, no matter how I configure the game I'm always under par.
I agree the career mode is well done, and I feel the scoring is realistic. The problem is that I can't find enough difficulty in the game to keep my score low enough so the AI can be competitive.
And I fully agree with you that EA needs to add some settings to increase the difficulty in the game to include the more seasoned players.
- PalomaMarvel242 years agoSeasoned Ace
@Katybee_1313 wrote:I read somewhere 2K was bragging they sold more than 2.5M copies of PGA 2K21, and that's when EA announced they were making a new golf game. It would explain why EA paid and went all in with exclusive licenses for the 4 Majors.
This same thing happened with NBA Live 19. NBA 2K18 sold really well while there has been a three year layoff for the NBA Live series. EA went all in for NBA Live 19 and got the WNBA in the game to take over the competition. The poor gameplay of NBA Live 19 resulted in poor reviews and sales. Two years later, NBA 2K21 finally got the WNBA and its create WNBA player feature.
If current game becomes the last of the series, it might take another 2 years til 2K gets the license for the majors.
@ELF014 wrote:
@Katybee_1313 wrote:We're going to EA Rory territory, got a feeling EA will cut their losses with lack of interest in golf games. Not enough money to be made here, probably why some of their top devs went to 2K to work on their golf game.
I don't think there is a lack of interest in golf games. I think there is a lack of interest in poorly designed and supported golf games.
I agree with this.
EA, or any other developer, would have great interest if only they would knock out a top class game.
EA has solutions here. One is to fix the obvious issues which, seemingly, are constantly ignored and to introduce crossplay like now.
Crossplay alone would go a long way to helping this game flourish.
@Bogeygolf83 wrote:Please provide article/info of the top devs leaving EA? Thanks!
- SlimDown572 years agoSeasoned Ace
@BlackCat09522 wrote:
@ELF014 wrote:
@Katybee_1313 wrote:We're going to EA Rory territory, got a feeling EA will cut their losses with lack of interest in golf games. Not enough money to be made here, probably why some of their top devs went to 2K to work on their golf game.
I don't think there is a lack of interest in golf games. I think there is a lack of interest in poorly designed and supported golf games.
I agree with this.
EA, or any other developer, would have great interest if only they would knock out a top class game.
EA has solutions here. One is to fix the obvious issues which, seemingly, are constantly ignored and to introduce crossplay like now.
Crossplay alone would go a long way to helping this game flourish.
For me the biggest improvement would be a toggle switch in settings to turn off random swaying swing line.
- @ELF014 Well said as usual.
- drewgriffiths2 years agoSeasoned Veteran
@PalomaMarvel24 I saw this quote regarding the length of this exclusive deal EA has with licensing all 4 majors…
”Asked for information on the length of the new agreement, an EA Sports spokesperson declined comment.”
Now personally, if this were a long term deal of say 4 years, EA would be banging their drum about it, boasting about it at every opportunity, so it tells me it’s a short term deal which they’re keeping it very hush hush. It also tells me if it really is a short term deal that they haven’t had confidence in their product from the get go
Imagine if they responded saying it was say just a 1 year deal from the game’s release date. The publicity wouldn’t be too great and wouldn’t give consumers confidence as it would sound like a lack of commitment from the parties involved. Now imagine if they said it was 5 year deal until 2028. Sounds like they’re committed to the deal, might inspire a little confidence from consumers straight away.
Just my opinion, though
EDIT: the quote is taken from this article here from 2021… https://www.polygon.com/2021/4/7/22371822/ea-sports-pga-tour-masters-tournament-ps5-xbox-series-x
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