Patch Notes 9 feedback on the future of the franchise.

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@agentputt wrote:
@RichACThe ball going over the hole still isn’t fixed

Like I said you don’t even play the game enough to realise this is still an issue

It’s rare but it’s still an issue

Putt physics in 2k23 are miles better

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I'm not sure how you can argue that the ball physics feel more realistic in 2K. Though I will admit IMHO, the swing mechanic is unnatural... while I like the concept the swing is too quick. It was much better in 2K2019.

I can play and score with it but anything other than a fullswing feels unnatural.

EA's swing on 2K's game would be about perfect for me... though there is something clunky about EA's putting animation... and what's with the ball on the toe of the putter when addressing your shot?

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Balls don't even hit trees in 2k23 they go right through them without even a tree sound, and people launch putts into the flagstick.  I laugh when i see the ball rolling super slow on fairway or green and never slowing speed or stopping it looks so unnatural.  honestly who do you people think you are fooling?   In EA even the crowd is an actual full object on the map that can affect the ball.   You guys dodn't understand how physics work and how its utilizing your graphics card drivers and hardware.   Good graphics usually automatically mean good physics.   2k23 looks like it has graphics from 1998 and feel clunky.      I'm starting to think the dozen of you left are 2k23 plants here to kill off this game and drive people to 2k23.  lmao.   I guess it worked cause thats what I play now.

I noticed there is a flashing red bulls eye if I'm in a bunker with a high face and this is flashing notifying me that I will hit the face. This is new for patch 9. How can I turn this off. I play custom with shot shaping, at the hardest level, and I don't need any notications helping me play. 

If Ea adds any help in the game we need to be able to turn off if not needed. 

Thanks!

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@agentputt wrote:
@ELF014The PUTT physics in 2k are better

The BALL physics are better on EA

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That's exactly how I feel too. Ball physics has always been weird hitting fairways and greens at The Golf Club, now 2K.

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@Katybee_1313 wrote:

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@agentputt wrote:
@ELF014The PUTT physics in 2k are better

The BALL physics are better on EA

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That's exactly how I feel too. Ball physics has always been weird hitting fairways and greens at The Golf Club, now 2K.

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I only have a few issues with the ball physics in 2K... and that is when hitting a long club where the ball has a low ball flight. The ball always seems pop up after the first bounce limiting the rollout. While I have seen this happen in real life it's more of an oddity than an expectation... in 2K it seems to happen everytime.

The other thing is when the ball is sitting on a severe up slope around the green, ball reaction can be inconsistent. Sometimes the ball comes out short, other times it lands beyond the max distance of what should be capable.

But I find the swing glitches from time to time in the game... especially noticeable when chipping.

As for EA, I appreciate that the swing and ball reactions are pretty consistent in the game. My issue is with the amount of rollout with the ball on shots other than a putter. There is a severe drop off between a 6 and 7 iron in the game... my issue should be that it should be more subtle. A 6 iron shouldn't hit the front apron of a green and roll through the length of it and another 40-50 feet into the bush.

And then for the putting to feel like you are trying to roll the ball on a shag carpet is puzzling. You are going from one extreme to the other.

I agree EA's swing mechanics are more consistent, but the ball physics are horrible. And you shouldn't need skill points and specs to improve ball physics in a golf game. Those should be used to improve on shot execution.

2K's physics are not perfect... but in my opinion feels much better overall.

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@agentputt wrote:
@ELF014The PUTT physics in 2k are better

The BALL physics are better on EA

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oh ya you are right.  ridiculous breaks and balls that don't change speed no matter the distance,  and players launching putts into the flagstick from less than 10 feet away sure seem much more realistic than EA. lol    I mean i've played 100s of games on EA and never seen the ball pop out of the cup,  or continue to roll over it since they patched that.  not saying it doesn't happen.  But come on you can't compared the graphics of these games. l I don't think some of you realize that graphics and physics go hand in hand.  SO to argue a game that looks like its from 1998 has better physics than ea's game,  is laughable.

Agree, 2K graphics and physics are not near as good as EA. 

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@3cee52bd3f71c2e1 wrote:

Agree, 2K graphics and physics are not near as good as EA. 

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I think people feel because the rough and sand is more punishing in 2k23 that means  its more "sim" like and has better physics.   But that is not what physics or sim-like mean to me.  lol

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@RichAC wrote:

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@agentputt wrote:
@ELF014The PUTT physics in 2k are better

The BALL physics are better on EA

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oh ya you are right.  ridiculous breaks and balls that don't change speed no matter the distance,  and players launching putts into the flagstick from less than 10 feet away sure seem much more realistic than EA. lol    I mean i've played 100s of games on EA and never seen the ball pop out of the cup,  or continue to roll over it since they patched that.  not saying it doesn't happen.  But come on you can't compared the graphics of these games. l I don't think some of you realize that graphics and physics go hand in hand.  SO to argue a game that looks like its from 1998 has better physics than ea's game,  is laughable.

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It's hard to argue with someone who doesn't seem to grasp things.

How does the quality of a graphical representation of something have anything to do with the math being applied to it?

I have no idea what you are referring to in regards to 2K's putting model. As in real life if the greens are fast... slow putts will break a ridiculous amount, especially downhill.

As for ramming putts into holes... I tested EA's original putting model and from 1 foot I could hit a 30 putt and it would still go in the hole. They have since adjusted it... because I have no idea what it does now. It seems you need putting skill points for the physics to even seem to be reasonable. Because without them it is like there is a glass cover on the hole at times.

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@RichAC wrote:

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@3cee52bd3f71c2e1 wrote:

Agree, 2K graphics and physics are not near as good as EA. 

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I think people feel because the rough and sand is more punishing in 2k23 that means  its more "sim" like and has better physics.   But that is not what physics or sim-like mean to me.  lol

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Rough and sand should affect your shot. Having grass between the ball and the grooves of you club limits the amount of spin you can impose.

In deep rough and buried lies it hampers your ability to get your club face on the ball. In EA, there are few courses and lies where you don't have a perfect lie... no matter where your ball is.

Even in an arcade game I expect some loss of yardage in a bad lie.

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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@3cee52bd3f71c2e1 wrote:

Agree, 2K graphics and physics are not near as good as EA. 

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I think people feel because the rough and sand is more punishing in 2k23 that means  its more "sim" like and has better physics.   But that is not what physics or sim-like mean to me.  lol

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Rough and sand should affect your shot. Having grass between the ball and the grooves of you club limits the amount of spin you can impose.

In deep rough and buried lies it hampers your ability to get your club face on the ball. In EA, there are few courses and lies where you don't have a perfect lie... no matter where your ball is.

Even in an arcade game I expect some loss of yardage in a bad lie.

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I agree but that has nothing to do with the ball physics of the game.  Complaining about lipouts and the way the ball rolls and trying to claim its better than 2k23 which looks like it has graphics from 1998,  is extremely disingenuous.  and imo,  downright suspicious lol.

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@RichAC wrote:

I agree but that has nothing to do with the ball physics of the game.  Complaining about lipouts and the way the ball rolls and trying to claim its better than 2k23 which looks like it has graphics from 1998,  is extremely disingenuous.  and imo,  downright suspicious lol.

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I think you need to define what you think ball physics are.

My definition is how a ball reacts to contact... bounces and rolls.

In EA the ball does not react well out of rough or sand (little to no penalty)... and the rollouts are ridiculous on mid to long irons.

I have never been one to claim I can spin a 5-iron and stop it on a dime on a green IRL, like some people on forums. But I have never had a ball land on the front edge of a green and have it run the length of a flat green over an embankment another 30 yards through rough into the bush either. Something about this game isn't right.

And I can't explain the inconsistent reaction with short irons (spin no spin), and the ridiculous spin on some short game shots (flop and pick). As bad as the rollout is with mid to long irons... it is ridiculously slow for putting. I don't expect the arborite type putting surfaces of the PGA Tour... but putting like you are on a shag carpet isn't right.

As for the reactions with what is happening with the cup... we call that cup physics.

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

I agree but that has nothing to do with the ball physics of the game.  Complaining about lipouts and the way the ball rolls and trying to claim its better than 2k23 which looks like it has graphics from 1998,  is extremely disingenuous.  and imo,  downright suspicious lol.

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I think you need to define what you think ball physics are.

My definition is how a ball reacts to contact... bounces and rolls.

In EA the ball does not react well out of rough or sand (little to no penalty)... and the rollouts are ridiculous on mid to long irons.

I have never been one to claim I can spin a 5-iron and stop it on a dime on a green IRL, like some people on forums. But I have never had a ball land on the front edge of a green and have it run the length of a flat green over an embankment another 30 yards through rough into the bush either. Something about this game isn't right.

And I can't explain the inconsistent reaction with short irons (spin no spin), and the ridiculous spin on some short game shots (flop and pick). As bad as the rollout is with mid to long irons... it is ridiculously slow for putting. I don't expect the arborite type putting surfaces of the PGA Tour... but putting like you are on a shag carpet isn't right.

As for the reactions with what is happening with the cup... we call that cup physics.

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reacts has nothing to do with the game physics because that has nothing to do with yoru graphics drivers.  How the ball bounces and rolls definitely is part of the physics and graphics drivers,   and I find it extremely,  I mean downright fraudulent to claim 2k23 has better physics.      Its so hilarious you complain about "arcade" like games,  meanwhile 2k23 is the ultimate arcade game especially how everyone holds down fastforward,  putts into the flagstick on the green,   and they have all these attribute boosters to your equipment and golfer that goes way beyond what EA allows.       i've always played EA games and 2k23 is definitely the cornest and most arcade like game ever.     SO I mean if EA takes anything you have to say seriously,   they are either falling for a troll or knowingly undermining their own games potential success.   Shame on you and them.  Because the graphics and physics have nothing to do with why 2k23 is more popular.