It’s got to go, it’s just not fun. 15mph, then a rainbow putt line from 4 feet away, terrible courses, terrible greens. It’s like I can only play 3 days a week online if I’m lucky with these not fun playlists. Don’t you want people to play your game and enjoy themselves?
High winds wouldn't be so bad if we didn't didn't have to play it all. day. long. The main issue I have with the "playlists" is that it limits the courses available to us.
Random everything every day all the time would give the variety to keep me wanting to play.
@Beerrun4u wrote:High winds wouldn't be so bad if we didn't didn't have to play it all. day. long.
This... it's coming back that for most, it's just not fun. Even in our 90+ country club in TW14, tournaments were rarely set up high winds as there was only a handful of players participating in them.
@packattack04082 wrote:
@Weyland4kI feel like this is the best playlist in the game. Anything less than 8-12 wind is just really boring and basically amounts to a birdie fest. I guess everyone views it differently but I'd hate it if this playlist got removed.
I still birdie 97% of it so it’s not really a valid statement to says it’ll just be a “birdie fest”. If you can play, you can play, right? It’s just not fun and it’s not just the winds, it’s the terrible most terrible courses with terrible rainbow putts at 4 feet. It’s too stressful, I play golf to RELAX.
Even on Forward Tees Pro today, it’s like Evian or Wolf Creek almost every single time. Evian is a borked course, the greens have terrible broken lines. It’s stressful playing Evian. I just want to play some nice sources and RELAX, not get stressed seeing a squiggly line at under 5 feet. Wolf Creek can be fun, but like once in a while and not all day either.
Think about new people coming in and not the high ranks (I’m decently ranked), all they do is lose and don’t even have a fighting chance because if they’re not being matched with a high ranked player, they’re overmatched on a terrible course.
@Weyland4kAre you playing Tour/Sim because 10-15 mph wind is definitely not a 'birdie fest'? It's not easy to birdie 97% of the holes on tour/sim in high winds, but on Pro it is super easy regardless of the wind. It really depends on what difficulty you are playing. Sim is the most fun mode in the game and the only one that I really enjoy anymore. Wind makes shooting a perfect score on Sim or Tour feel rewarding. On low wind, even Sim is way too easy to shoot a perfect score so Crooked numbers is the best playlist to ensure more of a challenge in terms of wind on any difficulty. Any playlist with 1-2 or even 2-4 mph wind is horrible in my opinion.
A few weeks ago, I tried match play and had a cuss word after seeing the game loading with Wolf Creek. Ended up happy after seeing the game not starting, maybe with the other guy feeling the same and just quitting.
@packattack04082 wrote:@Weyland4kAre you playing Tour/Sim because 10-15 mph wind is definitely not a 'birdie fest'? It's not easy to birdie 97% of the holes on tour/sim in high winds, but on Pro it is super easy regardless of the wind. It really depends on what difficulty you are playing. Sim is the most fun mode in the game and the only one that I really enjoy anymore. Wind makes shooting a perfect score on Sim or Tour feel rewarding. On low wind, even Sim is way too easy to shoot a perfect score so Crooked numbers is the best playlist to ensure more of a challenge in terms of wind on any difficulty. Any playlist with 1-2 or even 2-4 mph wind is horrible in my opinion.
I only play Pro and I should have mentioned that in my original post, I apologize for the lack of clarification.
I don’t mind if SIM people want winds, fine, give it to them, just keep it out of Pro at such a high frequency. We’re not playing Pro for high winds and exceedingly difficult courses/greens 24/7. We’re just not.
On Pro it’s not super easy lol. Depending on the direction, there are different decimal algorithms to wind computation if you want to get within 5ft to the cup based on wind alone. It’s not a one size fits all by far. I’ve mapped it, the wind has different multipliers based on directions on a clock. 6 is stronger than 12, etc. It’s mathematical facts and you can get in real trouble if you compute wind to the face like you do to the back on certain clubs.
It’s not easy if you haven’t mastered it. “Easy” is a loaded word right? People that hole out every round say it’s easy, of course to them it is, but to the other 95% of players, it’s not. So be careful and think before you say “easy” because it’s not that cut and dry.
Also, I play Tour guys all the time who say Pro is easy and they end up shooting -12 while I’ll put up a -22 and up. There is a bit of an elite mentality with Tour/Sim guys and they greatly underperform on Pro regularly.
I’m not the best, but I do play on a high level and it’s not easy to birdie and eagle everything all the time in all conditions, that’s preposterous. I’ve been in lobbies with the tip top ranked players in the game and they birdie/eagle everything when you would expect them to hole out every round, they don’t. The baseline for Tiger was birdie/eagle everything and those who can hole out will win. It’s not like that anymore, being consistent hitting birds and eagles every single shot is top 5 global.
@Weyland4kI rarely make a mistake on a hole on pro, regardless of the conditions. I shot -21 on the weekly sim tournament this week and that round was in 8-12 mph winds at Whistling Straits from the Black Tees. That round included 15 birdies and 3 eagles with 0 pars on the hardest difficulty setting in the game. I stopped playing online pro/arcade because it was way too easy. I think my record was something like 500-5 on pro/arcade and those 5 losses were all because my opponents had 1 or multiple hole-outs. When I say 'easy', I just mean that Pro takes very little thought or skill most of the time because you can spin it to within 5 feet almost every single hole if you know what you are doing. You even said that you can birdie 97% of the holes, which sure as heck makes Pro sound very easy. Putting is almost a non-factor except on long driveable par 4s where you might have a long putt because you can't control those shots nearly as much. The game has gotten so easy on most settings that I usually just play private matches now on Sim in 18-25 mph wind, which is the highest setting in the game and I usually shoot -10 to -14 even in those settings. I wish they'd add 18-25 mph options to tournaments and playlists too. I agree that the course selection in Crooked Numbers isn't the best, but still think EA needs to find a better way to include all courses into the playlists. Most people hate the rotating playlists but the player base is so small that I don't know what the best solution is anymore.
@packattack04082 wrote:@Weyland4kI rarely make a mistake on a hole on pro, regardless of the conditions. I shot -21 on the weekly sim tournament this week and that round was in 8-12 mph winds at Whistling Straits from the Black Tees. That round included 15 birdies and 3 eagles with 0 pars on the hardest difficulty setting in the game. I stopped playing online pro/arcade because it was way too easy. I think my record was something like 500-5 on pro/arcade and those 5 losses were all because my opponents had 1 or multiple hole-outs. When I say 'easy', I just mean that Pro takes very little thought or skill most of the time because you can spin it to within 5 feet almost every single hole if you know what you are doing. You even said that you can birdie 97% of the holes, which sure as heck makes Pro sound very easy. Putting is almost a non-factor except on long driveable par 4s where you might have a long putt because you can't control those shots nearly as much. The game has gotten so easy on most settings that I usually just play private matches now on Sim in 18-25 mph wind, which is the highest setting in the game and I usually shoot -10 to -14 even in those settings. I wish they'd add 18-25 mph options to tournaments and playlists too. I agree that the course selection in Crooked Numbers isn't the best, but still think EA needs to find a better way to include all courses into the playlists. Most people hate the rotating playlists but the player base is so small that I don't know what the best solution is anymore.
What platform are you on?
@packattack04082 wrote:Most people hate the rotating playlists but the player base is so small that I don't know what the best solution is anymore.
Yeah, I'm sure the reason of this playlist is to not divide the community, specially for the few PC players. At the same time, I think it also reduce the community as I'm sure I'm not alone not wasting my time to play something I don't like. And when I find something I like, ending up with Wolf Creek is enough to not want to play again online for a long time. I haven't look online since the match I talked about this morning.
