Putting Ruined in Update 3.0
Guys please, revert. This update on putting is terrible. Additionally, the lip-outs are terrible. I've got 100 matches under my belt on this IP to learn the game and just getting a handle on it. I've...
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@JGWentworths You're an expert on the topic...wow that was funny I can't stop laughing.
What if someone has been playing since 2006 and disagrees with you?
What a ridiculous thing to cite time played as expertise on a topic or subject.
Describe your issue, I think the new mechanic is closer to real life then before where I made 99% of my putts within 10-15 feet.
I have noticed a few times where I felt I was screwed over when I believed it should have dropped but for the most part I welcome the change as lip-outs and burned edges are very common IRL.
What if someone has been playing since 2006 and disagrees with you?
What a ridiculous thing to cite time played as expertise on a topic or subject.
Describe your issue, I think the new mechanic is closer to real life then before where I made 99% of my putts within 10-15 feet.
I have noticed a few times where I felt I was screwed over when I believed it should have dropped but for the most part I welcome the change as lip-outs and burned edges are very common IRL.
@SneaklerIt is not common AT ALL for a ball barely rolling to roll right through the center of the cup. I agree the cup was very receptive, but you don't come in after everyone has learned the game building up for weeks and COMPLETELY change the cup physics. Also, ball lips backwards in regards to physics. It's broken. Next are they gonna change the swing mechanics, wind effects, elevation, lies, percentages?
- @iglooman__TW I guess my issue is calling for a revert is over the top.
The videos that Agent Putt shared where it appears the ball rolls directly over the cup...or close to it...those are the ones that are ridiculous.
I just can't help myself someone saying I PLAYED THIS SINCE 2006 CHANGE IT BACK and doesn't even clarify their issue or provide examples.
That is the definition of a low-effort post.- @Sneakler When you break a game, the easiest thing is to quickly reverse it back. I absolutely calls for it. If they wanna try again and slightly tweak it later then ok. EA has done this in the past. 2014 when they broke the online bags reverting to new clubs after every game. they never fixed it and left this ridiculous glitch. We found a workaround but shouldn't they have fixed it immediately?
- @iglooman__TW I play this game at a top 1% level and I was banging in putts with extra speed and I loved it...couldn't miss it was so easy I'm not special.
They took it away...im kinda liking it. If these ridiculous examples didn't happen do you like the addition of the new mechanics overall with there being lip-outs?- @Sneakler No, when you lose your lead in a very tightly contested online match due to a ridiculous center cup putt that would have rolled 1 foot past the hole if the hole wasn't there, you'll understand.
@iglooman__TW wrote:
@SneaklerNo, when you lose your lead in a very tightly contested online match due to a ridiculous center cup putt that would have rolled 1 foot past the hole if the hole wasn't there, you'll understand.Exactly. When two talented players are hitting every birdy + eagle and you miss a putt to a borked mechanic and end up losing it sucks because the code it ripping a win from you.
@SneaklerI like the idea of lip outs of course, but not just throw them in willy-nilly for artificial difficulty. I do have a tip though for those who might have the "assisted aim" on. Turn it off. I used it offline as it gives you basically the perfect speed for the distance and elevation. NOT NOW. This game is close to being great but also so far away. I'm gonna drop back in a few months to see of they've added real online play and improved this cup crap.
@iglooman__TW Okay so I sense this back and forth might get ugly but let's get something straight.
Using phrases like "willy-nilly" and "artificial difficulty" make zero sense.
You like it the "IDEA" but then turn around and play both sides of the fence and state they "THREW THEM IN" and even stated why they "THREW THEM IN" to create artificial difficulty???
Maybe they were "ADDED TO THE GAME" because they weren't in the game, and they are part of real golf and not for some silly reason you gave which was artificial difficulty. It's just more difficult...there is nothing artificial about it other then the fact that it's a video game.
The problem is the specific example of a slightly overhit put rolling over the right or left 1/3 of the cup and just rolling over as if there was no cup. This is the only example that I feel they need to address. The game is punishing aggression on putts that are close to perfect incorrectly in some cases and anyone who has this as their main issue then I agree.
I was hitting overpowered aggressive putts on the outer 1/3 of the cup and they would drop every single time when there were no lip-outs and it was great and all for me...but seemed ridiculous as well. It was so easy and unrealistic.
- @iglooman__TW Apparently yes HeySteve said they are going to change Tour difficulty eventually to have the Hard swing which is quite frankly also ridiculous
@agentputt wrote:
@iglooman__TWApparently yes HeySteve said they are going to change Tour difficulty eventually to have the Hard swing which is quite frankly also ridiculousIs it really totally ridiculous when currently most rarely miss a fairway unless pushing it with a power drive?
- @Ultrasonic_77 Yes,when you swing the club perfectly with the right tempo, it should be where you aim. If you want all the IRL stuff, then use those things in SIM mode, which is perfect. Just a tip to all the IRL guys out there. There is absolutely nothing simulating IRL elements when you move your left thumb a half inch back and then an inch forward to simulate a golf swing. This is a video game and the major majority of players do not like the game just randomly choosing things for them, regardless of what the few in this forum say. Notice how nobody is here for online. Price drop in a month. Been playing for years and know what drove people online. Randomness was most certainly not it.
@iglooman__TW wrote:@SneaklerIt I agree the cup was very receptive, but you don't come in after everyone has learned the game building up for weeks and COMPLETELY change the cup physics. Also, ball lips backwards in regards to physics. It's broken. Next are they gonna change the swing mechanics, wind effects, elevation, lies, percentages?
Gosh you're a gem.Did you ever consider that regardless of everyone "learning the game" that the original physics of the cup were unintended and they were sitting there like geez people are shooting -20 on Tour difficulty putting is an absolute joke for these higher level players and they wanted the game to be more realistic?
Games make changes all the time and rebalance stuff this is nothing new after people learn certain mechanics, it took me a whole 30 minutes to adjust, I didn't become trash at the game all of a sudden.
In that process of making some changes they added a ton of realism while also clearly screwing up on the putts that are rolling over the hole if hit with what is considered to by most to be an acceptable pace for a putt. Needs to be fixed.
The problem is at the beginning you're talking about the whole implementation as a fail and calling it "artificial difficulty and randomness being added" which is just in accurate. If we want to focus on the only good example of it being broken then let's do that.
Lastly, this whole next are they gonna change swings/wind/elevation etc...
Come on man, putting was a joke and super easy, it's more challenging now, they just need to fix this one issue were having. Those other things you're talking about is hysterical and over the top.
- @Sneakler I agree with you here
I’m happy with the lip outs they just need to fix this 1 issue where it randomly goes over the hole sometimes
@agentputt wrote:
@SneaklerI agree with you here
I’m happy with the lip outs they just need to fix this 1 issue where it randomly goes over the hole sometimesYes and hopefully sooner than later.
I have putts that go to the right side of the cup. Then lip out and break further right. On left breaking putts. Their physics on the green are broken
its not just putting thats ruined, theres other aspects that are way off as well that have brought up... this game is broken from front to back
