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@RodSirloin wrote:
@-CACarpenter55-How do you not understand that low sales = inferior product? 2k23 is trash and that’s reflected in ~80k units sold. HB Studios made mobile games before Golf Club and 2k. At one point they were putting dev hiring ads on FB. They’re a bunch of 2 bit flunkies. Use your head dude
Where exactly are you getting your numbers? I haven't been able to find any sales numbers for 2K23... but I know 2K21 sold about 3 million copies. So my expectation is that 2K23 should sell about a million copies on release with final sales at about 3 million.
As for HB Studio's they were a small development company that decided to create a niche product that has been abandoned by larger publishers.
Not only did they evolve the genre they created a usee base with their offering and brought virtual golf back into the mainstream.
If not for this small group of developers who saw an opportunity and vision of what could be done. You would be limited to be playing Hot Shots Golf.
Other than the career mode and graphics, I can't argue in it's current state that EA has the better game.
By the way, in my personal opinion... gameplay will always trump graphics.
- 3 years ago
@Allan5858 wrote:
@ELF014I have played all HB golf versions, and have been totally impressed by their product, when 2k took over, I saw a rise in the professional presentation of the product, but a definite decline in development. I preferred HB studios as an independent developer of the golf game.As you can see I have all 5 games in the series. I remember the early days when you spoke directly with developers and other staff members on their forums.
That a bug would be brought up in discussions on a Friday, and they would have fixed it with a patch by Monday morning.
I felt that as a small fledgling development company they were more committed to the project, you could see the proud they had in their craft.
I really liked the earlier games, though they did need to evolve, and they were moving in the right direction. There was a definite shift in the game after 2019 that I personally didn't love. You could somehow feel the shift from a small shop dedicated to one piece of intellectual property to large conglomerate.
I really hate the speed of the backswing in 2K21... as well as how both companies handled attributes. They should be tied to the equipment, like in previous TGC games. But I do respect EA's handling of the skill tree versus 2K's.
But EA's difficulty level is way too low, at least 2K provides settings to challenge all level of players.
I personally don't understand the people that complain about the swing timing in 2K. If they cannot use it, there are 3 levels lower than the default PRO, making it easier until it is fully disabled.
Check your ego at the door and pick a aetting so you can at least get a feel for what the game is before saying that it is trash.
I like the HB Studio products better... played 2019 a weeks ago on-line with friends... and other than the slow greens and clunky putting it was fun.
Too bad HB Studio's didn't put in as a stipulation during the sale of their product to force 2K to maintain servers for all their games. The Golf Club games are no longer available for multiplayer.
EA Golf is sorely behind in this race... there are a lot of gaps/bugs in gameplay and features. The game released more polished than the first Golf Club game... but HB Studio's provided much more under the hood. Which is saying a lot for a small studio... and really speaks volumes about EA.
I'm really hoping EA gets their act together, but they are not the company they once were.
But you are not wrong, both 2K and EA appear to be about shining things up to sell you a product. Rather than providing a product that sells itself.
I'm ready to support another company wants to create something that fills their heart, rather than their pockets.
- PalomaMarvel243 years agoSeasoned Ace
Someone recently posted pro clubs and goalies in the general discussion. It got me thinking of Happy Gilmour. Missing 3 feet putts from slow rollers and lip outs feels like an invisible Vezina Trophy winning goalie is at the hole.
- 3 years ago
@PalomaMarvel24 wrote:Someone recently posted pro clubs and goalies in the general discussion. It got me thinking of Happy Gilmour. Missing 3 feet putts from slow rollers and lip outs feels like an invisible Vezina Trophy winning goalie is at the hole.
More like plastic wrap over the hole.
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