WTF happened with online play ? (PC)

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@ELF014 wrote:

Okay... my opinion only. Because it seems I have lost touch with reality.

If I wanted an arcade style game I would go out and buy something like  Mario Golf or Everybody's golf game. They is no pretense... they are not trying to hide the fact that this is not a serious representation of golf.

When you advertise that that you are going to map courses to within a 1/4"... with real world conditions and where course elevation matters. Where Shotlink and Trackman data is going to be integrated into the game. The ability to select from 20 unique shot types to manage your game like the pros.

Well yes...I am expecting somewhere in this product there is a golf simulation. I'm okay with there being an arcade game in there too... but I'm expecting a simulation.

People don't stop playing because there is no turn based play or that there is no chat. People don't play because the game isn't worth playing.

You can always gather a group of peope together to play in private rooms and there are third party ways to enable chat.

I can't get people to play this game. I'm up for giving this game every chance to succeed. I still test every patch to see what has changed, to see if there enough to draw me back. Those I play with won't even do that anymore.

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If you don't want arcade level players don't put in arcade mode. You should also have arcade level tournaments and challenges. I see they still don't have a toggle switch to turn off/on RNG/Dispersion. EA knows arcade players are there bread and butter. But i digress. 

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@SlimDown57 wrote:

If you don't want arcade level players don't put in arcade mode. You should also have arcade level tournaments and challenges. I see they still don't have a toggle switch to turn off/on RNG/Dispersion. EA knows arcade players are there bread and butter. But i digress. 

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Now this is a good argument.

If this is the case... why did they wrap their advertising around it being a real world golfing experience?

And if they thought they had the user base to support this IP, did they walk away from the game almost a decade ago?

And why did they create a game that seems to provide neither the arcade or sim player a satisfying experience?

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@SlimDown57 wrote:

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@ELF014 wrote:

Okay... my opinion only. Because it seems I have lost touch with reality.

If I wanted an arcade style game I would go out and buy something like  Mario Golf or Everybody's golf game. They is no pretense... they are not trying to hide the fact that this is not a serious representation of golf.

When you advertise that that you are going to map courses to within a 1/4"... with real world conditions and where course elevation matters. Where Shotlink and Trackman data is going to be integrated into the game. The ability to select from 20 unique shot types to manage your game like the pros.

Well yes...I am expecting somewhere in this product there is a golf simulation. I'm okay with there being an arcade game in there too... but I'm expecting a simulation.

People don't stop playing because there is no turn based play or that there is no chat. People don't play because the game isn't worth playing.

You can always gather a group of peope together to play in private rooms and there are third party ways to enable chat.

I can't get people to play this game. I'm up for giving this game every chance to succeed. I still test every patch to see what has changed, to see if there enough to draw me back. Those I play with won't even do that anymore.

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If you don't want arcade level players don't put in arcade mode. You should also have arcade level tournaments and challenges. I see they still don't have a toggle switch to turn off/on RNG/Dispersion. EA knows arcade players are there bread and butter. But i digress. 

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Everyone knows it except Elf,  and that is the type of guy they are crazily catering to.   honestly whether its arcade or sim play, tour or pro,  people just want to have some fair and competitive matchups and social interactions online like in any other sport. If I could get that I could care less which game difficulty i'm playing.

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@RichAC wrote:

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Everyone knows it except Elf,  and that is the type of guy they are crazily catering to.   honestly whether its arcade or sim play, tour or pro,  people just want to have some fair and competitive matchups and social interactions online like in any other sport. If I could get that I could care less which game difficulty i'm playing.

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Have you ever read anything I posted? 

I am probably more disparaging about this game than anyone on this forum. I do see all kinds of promise in the game, but EA seems to make poor decisions on top of poor decisions.

I'm not sure EA knows who their demographic is.

Rather than single me, which I can handle. Why not just acknowledge no one is happy with this game.

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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Everyone knows it except Elf,  and that is the type of guy they are crazily catering to.   honestly whether its arcade or sim play, tour or pro,  people just want to have some fair and competitive matchups and social interactions online like in any other sport. If I could get that I could care less which game difficulty i'm playing.

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Have you ever read anything I posted? 

I am probably more disparaging about this game than anyone on this forum. I do see all kinds of promise in the game, but EA seems to make poor decisions on top of poor decisions.

I'm not sure EA knows who their demographic is.

Rather than single me, which I can handle. Why not just acknowledge no one is happy with this game.

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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Everyone knows it except Elf,  and that is the type of guy they are crazily catering to.   honestly whether its arcade or sim play, tour or pro,  people just want to have some fair and competitive matchups and social interactions online like in any other sport. If I could get that I could care less which game difficulty i'm playing.

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Have you ever read anything I posted? 

I am probably more disparaging about this game than anyone on this forum. I do see all kinds of promise in the game, but EA seems to make poor decisions on top of poor decisions.

I'm not sure EA knows who their demographic is.

Rather than single me, which I can handle. Why not just acknowledge no one is happy with this game.

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I just assume everything you do is with malicious intent.  Simply based off your avatar.  And you yourself know exactly why.    What you do is disparage EA,  while supporting and defending every horrible change they make as you are doing in this very thread.    You don't think people would find that strange?  In fact you have clearly stated time and time again you have no interest in online play so I don't know why you're all over this thread.   I've played with Sam multiple times,  never saw you playing before and you claim to play on the PC.

You keep claiming the game is too arcade and you want a hard sim.   That is not why we are all going to 2k23 bud.  Don't worry EA will give you what you want.  And you will be one of the couple dozen people left in the game just like you one of the only people left on the forums now.

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@RichAC wrote:

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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Everyone knows it except Elf,  and that is the type of guy they are crazily catering to.   honestly whether its arcade or sim play, tour or pro,  people just want to have some fair and competitive matchups and social interactions online like in any other sport. If I could get that I could care less which game difficulty i'm playing.

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Have you ever read anything I posted? 

I am probably more disparaging about this game than anyone on this forum. I do see all kinds of promise in the game, but EA seems to make poor decisions on top of poor decisions.

I'm not sure EA knows who their demographic is.

Rather than single me, which I can handle. Why not just acknowledge no one is happy with this game.

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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Everyone knows it except Elf,  and that is the type of guy they are crazily catering to.   honestly whether its arcade or sim play, tour or pro,  people just want to have some fair and competitive matchups and social interactions online like in any other sport. If I could get that I could care less which game difficulty i'm playing.

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Have you ever read anything I posted? 

I am probably more disparaging about this game than anyone on this forum. I do see all kinds of promise in the game, but EA seems to make poor decisions on top of poor decisions.

I'm not sure EA knows who their demographic is.

Rather than single me, which I can handle. Why not just acknowledge no one is happy with this game.

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I just assume everything you do is with malicious intent.  Simply based off your avatar.  And you yourself know exactly why.    What you do is disparage EA,  while supporting and defending every horrible change they make as you are doing in this very thread.    You don't think people would find that strange?  In fact you have clearly stated time and time again you have no interest in online play so I don't know why you're all over this thread.   I've played with Sam multiple times,  never saw you playing before and you claim to play on the PC.

You keep claiming the game is too arcade and you want a hard sim.   That is not why we are all going to 2k23 bud.  Don't worry EA will give you what you want.  And you will be one of the couple dozen people left in the game just like you one of the only people left on the forums now.

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Whoever said I played on PC?

I have no issue with the game having an arcade segment to it. My issue is that they advertised a sim... and that doesn't exist anywhere in this game.

I can be quoted that EA has some well developed features in the game like the career mode. Fairly well thought out, but even that had some issues like not being able to play alternate tournaments.

The only real issue is that the game is so easy, even at the most difficult settings you are leading the tournament by the Saturday round.

At least I am willing to listen and debate a position I might not agree with. You just seem to agressively ramble on about how those with a different view to yours is wrong.

I think everyone has an opinion, and they are entitled to them. Who would I be to say they are wrong?

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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Everyone knows it except Elf,  and that is the type of guy they are crazily catering to.   honestly whether its arcade or sim play, tour or pro,  people just want to have some fair and competitive matchups and social interactions online like in any other sport. If I could get that I could care less which game difficulty i'm playing.

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Have you ever read anything I posted? 

I am probably more disparaging about this game than anyone on this forum. I do see all kinds of promise in the game, but EA seems to make poor decisions on top of poor decisions.

I'm not sure EA knows who their demographic is.

Rather than single me, which I can handle. Why not just acknowledge no one is happy with this game.

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@ELF014 wrote:

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@RichAC wrote:

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Everyone knows it except Elf,  and that is the type of guy they are crazily catering to.   honestly whether its arcade or sim play, tour or pro,  people just want to have some fair and competitive matchups and social interactions online like in any other sport. If I could get that I could care less which game difficulty i'm playing.

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Have you ever read anything I posted? 

I am probably more disparaging about this game than anyone on this forum. I do see all kinds of promise in the game, but EA seems to make poor decisions on top of poor decisions.

I'm not sure EA knows who their demographic is.

Rather than single me, which I can handle. Why not just acknowledge no one is happy with this game.

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I just assume everything you do is with malicious intent.  Simply based off your avatar.  And you yourself know exactly why.    What you do is disparage EA,  while supporting and defending every horrible change they make as you are doing in this very thread.    You don't think people would find that strange?  In fact you have clearly stated time and time again you have no interest in online play so I don't know why you're all over this thread.   I've played with Sam multiple times,  never saw you playing before and you claim to play on the PC.

You keep claiming the game is too arcade and you want a hard sim.   That is not why we are all going to 2k23 bud.  Don't worry EA will give you what you want.  And you will be one of the couple dozen people left in the game just like you one of the only people left on the forums now.

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Whoever said I played on PC?

I have no issue with the game having an arcade segment to it. My issue is that they advertised a sim... and that doesn't exist anywhere in this game.

I can be quoted that EA has some well developed features in the game like the career mode. Fairly well thought out, but even that had some issues like not being able to play alternate tournaments.

The only real issue is that the game is so easy, even at the most difficult settings you are leading the tournament by the Saturday round.

At least I am willing to listen and debate a position I might not agree with. You just seem to agressively ramble on about how those with a different view to yours is wrong.

I think everyone has an opinion, and they are entitled to them. Who would I be to say they are wrong?

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I have a hard tiem believing anyone who claims people are playing 2k23 because its a better realistic sim.   lmao.    I can't believe I keep reading these comments by the half a dozen regular posters who are left on this forum.  Absolutely blows my mind how far from my reality that is.     I sure as hell don't find EA's game too easy and I don't even play simulation mode.     hell of alot harder than the past pga tour games that were hugely popular,  thats for damn sure.   IN fact it baffles my mind, why if they have a sim mode,  you would want them to make every other game mode more like a sim.  baffling.

But you go ahead.  Keep convcing EA everyone wants a sim and thats why everyone plays 2k23.    This is what happens when they listen to the wrong people.   YOu end up with dead forums with only you posting on it,  and a game that doesn't even have anymore players on the pc servers when months ago it was growing.   RIP.

I'm stargin to wonder if the handful of people left on here are undercover ea employees trying to convince their superiors of this nosense, so they can help put this game in the dirt so they don't have to waste their time on it anymore.  What you believe makes absolutely no sense.  

Most people are playing 2k23 because it has online play and social features.   People play video games to escape reality bud,  and most people want is fair and competitive matchups.   And I have to say,  after playing 2k23  for a day,  it iis the best golf game for that I've ever seen.

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@SlimDown57 wrote:

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@ELF014 wrote:

Okay... my opinion only. Because it seems I have lost touch with reality.

If I wanted an arcade style game I would go out and buy something like  Mario Golf or Everybody's golf game. They is no pretense... they are not trying to hide the fact that this is not a serious representation of golf.

When you advertise that that you are going to map courses to within a 1/4"... with real world conditions and where course elevation matters. Where Shotlink and Trackman data is going to be integrated into the game. The ability to select from 20 unique shot types to manage your game like the pros.

Well yes...I am expecting somewhere in this product there is a golf simulation. I'm okay with there being an arcade game in there too... but I'm expecting a simulation.

People don't stop playing because there is no turn based play or that there is no chat. People don't play because the game isn't worth playing.

You can always gather a group of peope together to play in private rooms and there are third party ways to enable chat.

I can't get people to play this game. I'm up for giving this game every chance to succeed. I still test every patch to see what has changed, to see if there enough to draw me back. Those I play with won't even do that anymore.

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If you don't want arcade level players don't put in arcade mode. You should also have arcade level tournaments and challenges. I see they still don't have a toggle switch to turn off/on RNG/Dispersion. EA knows arcade players are there bread and butter. But i digress. 

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and now we know why they don't bud.  I always found it strange they didn't even though  I prefer tour mode,   I think its Because of guys like Elf who apparently EA is listening to for very mysterious reasons.    Its almost like they keep snubbing there nose at their own playerbase and customers.