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So you actually agree with me
given that any real player couldn’t achieve that, it is appalling on the part of EA to set that stuff up. It is only to stack their coffers
@debeee65 wrote:So you actually agree with me
given that any real player couldn’t achieve that, it is appalling on the part of EA to set that stuff up. It is only to stack their coffers
There are 'real' people who have already gained access to future plants, including all the planned mints and the new breed of peashooters. They do so by downloading hacked data files.
I have seen videos on YouTube where the uploader scrolls through their plants grid while selecting plants and this sometimes reveals all 14 of the mints and the new peashooters are lined up at the bottom of the table.
While many of us suspect that EA/Popcap are not above utilizing 'questionable' tactics, I don't believe even they would resort to something that's so obvious.
I believe it's down to hackers whose skills are so inadequate that they can't win without cheating, and they also don't have the sense they were born with so they upgrade everything without thinking how stupid they're being.
- MAGICDAVESHROOM7 years agoLegend
I've seen some of those videos and noticed the full set of powermints, most haven't been released yet.
I've reached the stage where I'm starting to max out a few plants (or so i thought) or taken certain plants as far as i want to go because the negligible gains in things like recharge times or a minor toughness boost aren't worth the extra 175,000 coins or so to max it out, even though i have the seeds to do so.
Now this mastery b*ll*cks has come out and imho it's just another way to generate revenue.
When players start maxing out their supposedly already maxed out plants will yet more plant boosting schemes start popping up?
I don't think I'll bother with it.
Remember how easy and cheap it was to ugrade your first plant?
Sunflower L1-L2 was 10 seed packets and 1,000 coins.
I shall try to resist the lure of mastery and stop at level 10.
I'm still working on the HUMPLEMINT, if anyone has any leftover weapons grade plutonium please let me know.
- 7 years ago
@Humplemann wrote:
@debeee65 wrote:So you actually agree with me
given that any real player couldn’t achieve that, it is appalling on the part of EA to set that stuff up. It is only to stack their coffers
There are 'real' people who have already gained access to future plants, including all the planned mints and the new breed of peashooters. They do so by downloading hacked data files.
I have seen videos on YouTube where the uploader scrolls through their plants grid while selecting plants and this sometimes reveals all 14 of the mints and the new peashooters are lined up at the bottom of the table.
While many of us suspect that EA/Popcap are not above utilizing 'questionable' tactics, I don't believe even they would resort to something that's so obvious.
I believe it's down to hackers whose skills are so inadequate that they can't win without cheating, and they also don't have the sense they were born with so they upgrade everything without thinking how stupid they're being.
In which case, EA should be busting their ar*es and cleaning them from the game, either way, EA is complicit
- Anonymous7 years ago
I have encountered a great number of these “opponents” with M200 level plants, and lost of course. Typically I encounter them when I hit level 9 or 10 in Jade league. I have learned to NEVER pay gems to maintain my streak. It's a fool's errand to do so.
If these so called “master” level plants have truly been earned by real players (idiots?) pouring real money into this game, then I feel sorry for them. If you are reading this, please get a life! I only ever paid real money just once to buy a plant, and already regret doing that. It's bad enough suffering the ads, from which EA earns real money, much less giving them any more of my hard earned dough by buying plants, gems, etc.
I don’t have any problem coming 1st or 2nd in Jade league with my free plants as long as I put the hours in playing the same stupid game over and over and over. As I type this, I wonder why I am stupid enough to think that this boring repetition is entertaining? At least hamsters running in a wheel are getting exercise...
- 7 years ago
For me the enticement is the various challenges. I agree that some the repitition in BattleZ can be down right droll...
But at the end of the week the reward makes it all worthwhile !!
I equate Mints with Pokemon...gotta get 'em all !
- 7 years ago
Not sure about the rest of you but for me there are definitely less of the mega bots in Battlez this round, although just had one now
- 7 years ago
In Wood League ? Ouch !
- Anonymous7 years ago
Here's a screenshot showing not only further proof of the ridiculously high level bots being generated by the EA system, but also proof that they can actually be beaten!! If the various M200 level plants were real, they would have beaten me easily, which suggests that the score that the M200 level bots actually achieve is equally fictitious.
interestingly, after I beat 3 of these bots at the 10 thru 12 level, my opponents went back to being ordinary level plants. So it seems that the EA modus operandi is to try to beat you down with a series of bots and then match you against recordings of real players if you manage to weather the storm.
- 7 years ago
Congratulations. Interesting theory that seems reasonable. Down with EA Bots !!
- Anonymous7 years agoGreat score! I'm maxing at 475,000...
And I think I encountered "caroline" just last week (week 35 battlez) and also beat it. Yes, I see the same pattern where after a long streak of wins it gives you a (possibly bot) strong profile opponent. And as you mentioned, after weathering it, it goes back to the normal levels. And I was in soil league last week so I guess league level doesn't matter...
I'm curious on your strategy to get that score... - 7 years ago
I’m seeing these M 200 level plants now almost every time I get a streak of around 10. I too refuse to pay to extend my streak as I did it once and found that the next time you lose it costs you double the 10 gems it costs for your first loss. I figured ea probably has the streak system set up just like they have the coins necessary to level up, starting @ 10 and ending @ God knows where. I’m old enough to remember back when if you wanted to play a game you bought it for $10 and you played it as long as you wanted with no additional charges. It’s mind boggling for me to just imagine what some people will pay to play.
- 7 years ago
I agree with you 100 per cent. My sentiments exactly !
- Anonymous7 years ago
Here's an update on the EA Mega Bots. The good news is that I continue to beat them in current Battlez matches. Screenshot shows the latest beast that should have beaten me easily but didn’t. So I stick to my hypothesis that the scores are just as fictional as the plants that these opponents have. The truth is I have no idea what is going on, but I'm not as negative to these Bots as I once was.
My streak is now up to 245, whereas in previous Battlez matches I could not get past 15 or so. Clearly I have been very lucky to hit upon the optimal plant selection and strategy.
- Anonymous7 years ago
I guess they set a threshold (for the bot scores) so it won't be too obvious? And aside from the two 500k's I encountered (and lost), the threshold seems to be 460k. Anything below that and you'll lose to the (possibly) bot profile. I got this figure as I was trying different strategies on live battlez (already used up my practice room) and mentally noted the (possibly bot) scores. I'm lossless after that since I'm consistently hitting the 480k's now. Still aiming for 500k though...
- 7 years ago
I don't understand why people get so upset over players who cheat by rooting their phone and hacking the game but they tolerate EA's shenanigans when EA is the biggest cheater out of anyone.
Whether they just make up arbitrary player names with random plants and assign arbitrary scores or they create super-bots that beat you - EA is engaging n deceptive, dishonest practices.
In the regular adventure game if they want to throw a super-powered Zomboss at you or a thousand gargantuans - that's OK, they can do that, but in Battlez, they're pretending to be a real live player - they're lying, and they're enforcing losses after x number of wins (for most people it is 6 or 7 wins).
It's BS !
And then these fricken bastages pretend to be so concerned about tracking down and expelling cheaters.
Expel yourselves EA, you fargin ice holes !!!
- 7 years ago
Improving the EA_bots ?
Week 37 Power Lilly - below configuration scored 1.1M which I barely beat with just over 1.2M (I have M70 Shadow Peashooter)
Level 10 Power Lilly
Level 10 Gold Bloom
Level 5 MoonFlower
Level 4 Dusk Lobber
Level 6 GrimRose
Level 10 Shadow Shroom (how can this plant be at level 10 with the others area ll below level 7 ?)
this is thousands of seed packets more for one plant in the family...
- Anonymous7 years ago"Lawn of Doom" piñatas 🙂
My shadow shroom and grimrose are miles ahead of its family. I spammed those piñatas when I was trying to level up shadow pea.
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