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TempJmag
7 years ago
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suppressed sun production during the forced "Streak-Breaker" losses in Battlez ?

Has anyone noticed suppressed sun production during the forced "Streak-Breaker" losses in Battlez ? I haven't actually tracked sun production and analyzed it statistically, but I just had a loss (ga...
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    Humplemann
    7 years ago

    I've had many instances this week (Starfruit) where it takes anywhere up to 30 seconds into the match before I get sun from any source.

    This means I have to survive with only my pre-planted damage dealers. (Plus deploying Spearmint to help out until the sun finally starts to come in.)

    I commence each match with 5 Laser Beans, 5 Starfruit, and 13 Moonflowers. That leaves me with zero sun. 

    Having 13 Moonflowers at the outset normally gives me more than adequate sun within 10 to 15 seconds to commence a major buildup of plants. In fact, the limiting factor is usually waiting for the relevant plants to refresh. 

    When I get that 'Sun Starvation' at the start, I KNOW I'm in for a struggle. I also KNOW I'm fighting a Bot as this is almost always accompanied by the classic sudden jumps in the opponent's score. This is then confirmed at the end of the match when I see there was NO WAY the opponent's plants could get anywhere near to their scores.

    Fortunately my plants are now sufficiently high powered to overcome many of these attempted 'Streak-Breaker' losses by staging a 'big finish' in the final few seconds, but I'm still not immune to them.

    When I get an 'opponent' with plant selections that make no logical sense and at levels far below mine scoring over 4 million points, you KNOW you've been shafted by EA/Popcap.

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Anonymous
7 years ago

For potentially streak breaking matches, I kinda feel that but rarely see a bot when the match ends. In addition to sun-starvation, zombie-starvation (no zombies to kill, lower score) is also a problem.

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    TempJmag
    7 years ago

    It is difficult to keep track of sun production and play the game at the same time, but I have kept track of scores.  I know that EA cheats me with forced losses, I'll have 5 or 6 wins where my score is about average, then I'll have a loss where my score is something like 15 to 25 standard deviations below the mean.  After that forced loss, I'll have 5 or 6 more games where my scores falls within 1 standard deviation.

    I have been beaten by players who either have better strategies or have higher level plants.  During those losses, my score is usually about average, they just have a higher score.

    I've experienced "zombie starvation", I didn't know sun starvation was a thing.  So other people have experienced this then ?

    • Anonymous's avatar
      Anonymous
      7 years ago
      @TempJmag wrote:

      ...

      I've experienced "zombie starvation", I didn't know sun starvation was a thing.  So other people have experienced this then ?

      Well... It's not the mainstream term... I just called it that... 😓

      I can't speak of others' experiences but IIRC in the "BattleZ experience" thread, this has been mentioned before.

      I think @lawmfw cited similar issues.

      • Humplemann's avatar
        Humplemann
        7 years ago

        I've had many instances this week (Starfruit) where it takes anywhere up to 30 seconds into the match before I get sun from any source.

        This means I have to survive with only my pre-planted damage dealers. (Plus deploying Spearmint to help out until the sun finally starts to come in.)

        I commence each match with 5 Laser Beans, 5 Starfruit, and 13 Moonflowers. That leaves me with zero sun. 

        Having 13 Moonflowers at the outset normally gives me more than adequate sun within 10 to 15 seconds to commence a major buildup of plants. In fact, the limiting factor is usually waiting for the relevant plants to refresh. 

        When I get that 'Sun Starvation' at the start, I KNOW I'm in for a struggle. I also KNOW I'm fighting a Bot as this is almost always accompanied by the classic sudden jumps in the opponent's score. This is then confirmed at the end of the match when I see there was NO WAY the opponent's plants could get anywhere near to their scores.

        Fortunately my plants are now sufficiently high powered to overcome many of these attempted 'Streak-Breaker' losses by staging a 'big finish' in the final few seconds, but I'm still not immune to them.

        When I get an 'opponent' with plant selections that make no logical sense and at levels far below mine scoring over 4 million points, you KNOW you've been shafted by EA/Popcap.

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