Anonymous
10 years ago4-6 corns every game
But who can really blame them when pea shooter and corn are the only plants that are decent now? Citron can't tank like he's supposed to. His damage is pretty subpar because his attack overheats to...
I cant give you a feedback about cactus and chomper since i dont play them at all.
Anyway i tell you what i think about Rose and Citron:
"Rose is useless now aside from building teleporters. She didn't need a health nerf. She can't duel anyone anymore and gets blown up as soon as she leaves cover."
- The actual problem with Rose is not the health nerf (besides Fire one and Ice one that should move and jump while charging their attack and that type of nerfs discourage mechanically skilled player from playing her but nevermind.) I'm always saying on facebook, i send many emails, keep telling on many posts on the forum, she's not bad and perfectly fine the way she is. Her only problem is the fact actually is bugged ! Her homing works only specific ranges and it's totally randomly. I very like Rose and i would continue maining her. I'm not even player her badly, since she's not bad, she's just frustrating because is not working as intended, and if is it working as intended Patch Notes shoulded be more specific. Actually homing works only on Mid-high range in every situation. Low to medium sometimes is pretty much bugged and you have just to aim and shoot manually, which is very hard considered her bullet speed is quite low.
"Citron can't tank like he's supposed to. His damage is pretty subpar because his attack overheats too quickly. All for what? So he can move around a map faster? Please."
My favorite character was Rose but due to the fact now she's unplayble i moved to this. Citron, is Op if in rights hands, need to understand his kit before judging him, if you make him affordable and buff him as soon as possible community will cry OVER and OVER for a nerfs and exactly like the Rose he will fall into oblivion. Citron is perfect the way he is. You need just to play him a lot in order to understand his mechanics. He's hard. His not a lone wolves and generally speaking is not someone made for 1vs1 anyone.
Group together, peel your team-mates, take objectives with the ball, make pressure on the map with your mobility, make enemy team chase you and ambush them, use your CC to peel your team and meanwhile do AS MUCH as damage AS you can.
Yeah you can defenetively do damage. Look at PeaShooter.. his kit does ONLY damage.. ofc while being a little more safe, end? He has nothing but raw damage, Citron is Op in teamfights and is not the character that carry games, appears in the scoreboard with the highest kills.
Is the character like sunflower that will carry the game with his pressure/kit and nobody will ever know, because if something cant kill you straightly, than is not OP.
OP is what make you win and give more % chance to win, not what can go 20/0/10 and win alone. Actually im winning more when im playing plants and people stop spamming that useless piece of garbage called Corn and playing more variety characters and whenever i have at least two good Citron i realized chances to win are more.
But he's hard, and not fun to play. That's it. People are discouraged from playing it, because he's clunky, but he need to be clunky, you have just to know how his mechanics works, and after you know how much you can afford you can play him properly.
I know Corn is good. But his kit is made ONLY for carry and is pretty much "easy to learn" but "very hard to master", and only a good Corn can be more efficient than a character with Damage+Utility, instead playing a citron and being useful for your team has much more impact on the game.
Actually is good for many reasons:
decent tank frontliner due to the shield
many CCs (empeach and the Roller Dash and if Frozen Citron the Freeze)
Map Pressure: yes exactly. THis character like everyone plants sucks at 1vs1. You have to imagine him as a team helper, ofc works great on vanquish and suburbination but its not that bad in others game modes. The fact you can be everywhere in everytime, think about it, its about "possibilities"
"if now i ddnt had my cool movespeed and i wasnt here, my teammate could be killed and we could have lost many win chances"
Instead you were here and helping.
He's enough tank to hold on Scientist burst and try to kill them. The empeach is generally good. He's decent at frontline and many plants cant. He's laser is hard to use but once you know how much you can use it and spam it before is going to Burn you can abuse it and not only has a very long range but also a good hitbox, perfect for those who are not very good at aiming and for taking down Imps.
I dont want a Citron buff. He doesnt need it ☹️
Citron is really weak, I don't really care what you argue with. I've played as the imp post patch and I can outright body them. Went 10-2 vs one in a turf wars. His empeach is completely nullified against a gravity bomb. Have you ever tried to take down an imp at close range with his beam? It's funny trying to watch them attempt to drag that slow beam around quickly. Even though the reticle is in place the beam has to catch up, and it will never catch up to a constant jumping in every direction imp. Also, the Citron has the inherent problem of being an extremely wide bodied target. Which basically means I can hip fire with anyone and connect. It's very easy to completely annihilate Citrons. All forms. The best variant of citron is a maxed Iron Citron, but even he has some massive flaws against anything that is currently "armored". Not saying a character like that shouldn't have flaws, but the Citron certainly is not a great character.
I think some people in here are actually overestimating the plants capabilities in here. I've finally started playing as the scientist, and he is by far, the most proficient vanquish master there is in the game. It's actually too easy. I used Computer scientist, and the zoologist. I can rack up 20+ kills in the first area of a turf wars match, and end it every time on that first section. Killing literally everything. Two shot sunflowers, Roses, 3 shot a peashooter, 3 shot a corn. They don't even know what hit them. When I die I can cover the ground quickly again with teleport, and I'm right back in their face before they had a chance to advance much. And as the imp it's very similar, as I can just constantly rush in and dump a clip and drop things with ease, and they really struggle to hit me. I mean like, really struggle. It's pretty pathetic how easy it is to suppress with the zombie team.