Balancing? More like "Screw Zombies."

No Citron nerf.

MORE Corn Damage.

Buffing the already strongest Plants for what? Breakfast Brainz balancing? Buffs to Super Brainz?

Popcap, you've screwed up. It's like you WANT Plants to be better now.

For those of you who don't know yet, Citron received a damage buff, and overheat buff, making it so he overheats slower.

Now, let's look at how it was before. He (usually) dealt 5 👿 damage on splash, and up to 6 (7) damage per direct hit.

His laser was around 6 seconds long, about a second longer with the overheat upgrade.

Now, take that, and increase the damage by 1, and laser duration by about 1.5 seconds longer.

But how many times does the laser hit per second? About 8 times for splash, and 10 times on direct hit.

Think about that for a minute and do the math. You get a LOT of damage.

Combine that damage with the fact Citron has 200 health, a shield that can take another 75 more, a stun, and the ability to turn into a ball, and easily run away from a fight to avoid dying.

Yeah... According to Popcap, this is balanced.

Then buffing Corn's damage. Basic already does 5-7 (6-9 on critical hit), and about a point more with the damage upgrade. Just as much as Soldier.

We don't know by how much, but by this point, it's clear to see they're trying to make Corn stronger than Soldier, rather then balancing them to be equal.

So, let's see what Corn has better than Soldier...

More ammo. Corn has 40 (45) and Soldier has 30 (35)

Damage. They have deal about the same amount now, but now they're going to buff Corn more.

Abilities.

Corn has an airstrike. Soldier has a stink cloud.

They both have a jump ability, but Corn's can be used as an attack.

Health. Corn has 150, 25 more than Soldier.

The one thing that Soldier really has better, is speed. Soldier is slightly faster than Corn. SLIGHTLY.

We don't know if other Corns are being buffed, but this alone, tells they want Corn better than Soldier.

That's all I have to say, have a PLANTastic day.

40 Replies

ShavedThronel0
9 years ago
They aren't for the plants yet. They still haven't nerfed the pirate or the imp.
PurpleKudzu423
9 years ago
I totally agree with you on this. If Pop Cap wants corn to be equal with soldier then they really need to buff and adjust the soldiers! Great post.
ScreenhogRSnail
9 years ago
@ShavedThronel0 wrote:

They aren't for the plants yet. They still haven't nerfed the pirate or the imp.

Pirate is overpowered.....please

Also it is really fun soloing Z-Mechs as Frozen Citron.
Boolerex
9 years ago
@ScreenhogRSnail wrote:

@ShavedThronel0 wrote:

They aren't for the plants yet. They still haven't nerfed the pirate or the imp.

Pirate is overpowered.....please

Also it is really fun soloing Z-Mechs as Frozen Citron.

Parrot is OP for sure. But that pretty much the only thing that could be considered OP for deadboard.

Main reason imp didn't appear to be as dominant as before is. You guessed it,because of citron!
ShavedThronel0
9 years ago
@Boolerex wrote:

@ScreenhogRSnail wrote:

@ShavedThronel0 wrote:

They aren't for the plants yet. They still haven't nerfed the pirate or the imp.

Pirate is overpowered.....please

Also it is really fun soloing Z-Mechs as Frozen Citron.

Parrot is OP for sure. But that pretty much the only thing that could be considered OP for deadboard.

Main reason imp didn't appear to be as dominant as before is. You guessed it,because of citron!

You forgot about his broken hitbox when hes on the cannon. Also the shot gun like the normal pirate that takes 38.

The imp just anti gravity and just go under them and they can't hit you at all.the pylon imp who takes 24 and shoots in burst of 2 with 32 ammo. lildrake that takes 5 with 40 bullets and fire effect. 75 lives + double jump + skill = invincible. Or hide behind a wall when a mech because you have a rapid firing weapon that takes 10.
Anonymous
9 years ago
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@ShavedThronel0 wrote:

@Boolerex wrote:

@ScreenhogRSnail wrote:

@ShavedThronel0 wrote:

They aren't for the plants yet. They still haven't nerfed the pirate or the imp.

Pirate is overpowered.....please

Also it is really fun soloing Z-Mechs as Frozen Citron.

Parrot is OP for sure. But that pretty much the only thing that could be considered OP for deadboard.

Main reason imp didn't appear to be as dominant as before is. You guessed it,because of citron!

You forgot about his broken hitbox when hes on the cannon. Also the shot gun like the normal pirate that takes 38.

The imp just anti gravity and just go under them and they can't hit you at all.the pylon imp who takes 24 and shoots in burst of 2 with 32 ammo. lildrake that takes 5 with 40 bullets and fire effect. 75 lives + double jump + skill = invincible. Or hide behind a wall when a mech because you have a rapid firing weapon that takes 10.

Not even close to be invincible :v

For the thread i really like these changes. I want plant dominating for a couple of months and zombies being extremely weak.
Maybe.. finally.. people will truly understand that zombies are not op, and some zombies will finally have some loves.. like Hockey star.. Archeologist.. or Centurion ^^
Boolerex
9 years ago
@ShavedThronel0 wrote:

@Boolerex wrote:

*stuff*

You forgot about his broken hitbox when hes on the cannon. Also the shot gun like the normal pirate that takes 38.

The imp just anti gravity and just go under them and they can't hit you at all.the pylon imp who takes 24 and shoots in burst of 2 with 32 ammo. lildrake that takes 5 with 40 bullets and fire effect. 75 lives + double jump + skill = invincible. Or hide behind a wall when a mech because you have a rapid firing weapon that takes 10.

How is cannon rodeo hitbox broken?

As for imp,just use a CC like Empeach or timesnare against him and he's ded. Also good luck hiding behind anything as a Z-mech as he's...Well big. Didn't mean he's balanced,but saving he's invincible then he's not is dumb.
linger4606
9 years ago
Just no.

The zombie soldier class counterpart is the peashooter. Same hp. Soldier can annihilate it.

Corns counterpart is All Star. I don't know where you all are getting that from! All Star is a beast and a tank when used properly.

Also look at Engineer outclassing Rose. Scientist outclassing Sunflower. Pirate outclassing Cactus. Lmfao!

Y'all are Zombie crybabies and don't think things through. Thank God the devs stopped listening to the community or we'd have Zombies being so overpowered
ScreenhogRSnail
9 years ago
@linger4606 wrote:
Just no.

The zombie soldier class counterpart is the peashooter. Same hp. Soldier can annihilate it.

Corns counterpart is All Star. I don't know where you all are getting that from! All Star is a beast and a tank when used properly.

Also look at Engineer outclassing Rose. Scientist outclassing Sunflower. Pirate outclassing Cactus. Lmfao!

Y'all are Zombie crybabies and don't think things through. Thank God the devs stopped listening to the community or we'd have Zombies being so overpowered

Let's look here

Counter parts in this game are, if you look by abilities and weapons

Engineer and Peashooters since both are siegers, same abilities sort of and weapons

Citron and All-Star since both are assault ranks

Corn and Foot Soldier since both have similiar weapons and abilities are supposed to be frontlines

Chomper and Super Brainz since both are melee

Cactus and Pirate since both have drones and sniper weapons

Sunflower and Scientist since both can heal and revive fast

Imp and Rose since both in battle are support if anything

In this first game, if anything, zombies were underpowered

Why?

Plants had the chili bean bomb, zombies did not

Plants had an insta kill vanquish class, zombies did not

Plants had a superior healer, with a heal beam zombies did not have, and the scientists never even bothered to share their mega heal bombs when it was released.

Plants had a dedicated sniper, zombies at best zombies had the camo ranger

Garden and Graveyard maps were mostly peashooters spamming hyper to the point and planting sombrero bean bombs. I am not including the potato mine and spikeweed layering the point.

Oh, but Zombies had the SCIENTIST, which I don't even understand why people even complain about him. Sunflower has an easy control weapons good at all ranges in comparison and a solar flare beam. Regular scientist does 70 damage at close range and everyone complains about the marine biologist and chemist who do 36-50 at close range.

Compared to the Sunflower, he is the worse healer. And he is screwed at range, oh, he does well at close range, so does chomper and brainz. Thing called a shotgun.

You were most likely one of those people who defended Rose when she was overpowered to the point where the game wasn't even fun. I am sure you would've liked it back then, where the Imp was always getting destroyed as well and entire games were the zombie side were goats.

But please, let's look here

Scientist beats Sunflower at close range, sunflower beats Scientist at any other range that isn't point-blank

Engineer beats Rose if she doesn't jump around and stuns her first, Rose beats Engineer if she jumps around with her higher mobility and her two stuns and invincibility mode. Do I also have to mention Rose doesn't have to aim as much and has a higher DPS?

Pirate does less long range damage than Cactus, so Cactus would win. And at close range, you know potato mines exist and cactus can hipfire her sniper shots unlike the Pirate.

Please, when will you people realize the Pirate was meant to be a close range and long range character.

Also how is Corn supposed to be the bloody All-Star, that is saying the Foot Soldier should be equal to Citron....
Anonymous
9 years ago
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@ScreenhogRSnail

Plants had the chilli bean bomb, zombies did not

all star imp punt

but the rest is spot on