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10 years ago
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Cactus dominates Deadbeard

First of all: No, I don't want Deadbeard to be buffed. But the whole Deadbeard>Cactus thing irritates me as a former cactus main. I really don't know why anybody would say that Deadbeard is a better pick than the Cactus, apart from the drone. Even in that case, it's mainly the amount of HP of the Parrot that makes a huge difference, since the Garlic Drone clearly has a better airstrike and damage. I mean, apart from his shotgun, which is basically a weaker version of the Chemist weapon, there is no advantage Deadbeard has in a direct gunfight with a  Cactus. Almost every Cacti can pout out far more damage over any range, with the Ice and Power variants being the exception to the rule. I mean, every skilled Future or Camo Cactus should be able literally commit a genocide of biblical proportions among Deadbeard players. Even the infamous Sharkbite doesn't pose too much of a threat. And don't tell me that it's impossible, I've been able to get 42 kills with the Camo Cactus and a 29 streak almost exclusively by counter-sniping Deadbeard. Now,  understand that there are players that haven't played as much with the Camo Cactus as I've done (100+ hours in GW1), and I know that he's hard to master and needs the damage upgrade to truly shine, but there's a reason Solo Play exists. That being said, I am open to arguments that counter my point of view and I'd honestly love to know why everybody thinks Deadbeard is so supreme. The only argument that I won't accept is that Zen Cactus doesn't pose a threat to Deadbeards. He clearly was better than the Future and Camo ones, which are supposed to be heavy hitters, so the nerf was deserved. And if you were a Zen Cactus main, I can only tell you: Gid guud bo0n, and learn to use some different Cacti, even if that requires you to have skill and/or to specialize in playing a certain way.

Sincerely, somebody who's unable to figure out why Deadbeard is so much better than the Cactus

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    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    I think the Captain has way more utility than the cactus. The cactus is fine, really. But is a much more tradional sniper. His wall and potatoes abilities are very specific abilities that are to guard a specific spot... The captains barrel is a great defensive mechanism as well as offensive mechanism. You see a chomper burrow? Pop in your barrel and he has no choice but to leave. Definitely a good counter measure. And his cannon ability is great for hit multiple targets for good damage or one target for 50. Plus his parrot drone is in every way better than the garlic drone. Parrot shoots better than garlic and eggsplosion is a much more practical version or the Corn bomb thing. It's quicker and does enough damage to kill someone without warning the targets that something here like the garlic drone does.

    I definitely don't think either class is weak, in fact they are potentially both the most capable of going on vanquish streaks for their respective sides. The captain is much more versatile though. Much much more. His shotgun is 100% good enough to wipe an approaching enemy. Whereas the cactus will struggle much more trying to shoot some of the up close zombies like an imp. Plants aren't special in how they jump or anything like zombies, so it's not like they're ability to evade really hinder a captains ability to hit it's target. Not nearly as much as some zombies can move, jump, and all that good jazz.

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    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    I think the Captain has way more utility than the cactus. The cactus is fine, really. But is a much more tradional sniper. His wall and potatoes abilities are very specific abilities that are to guard a specific spot... The captains barrel is a great defensive mechanism as well as offensive mechanism. You see a chomper burrow? Pop in your barrel and he has no choice but to leave. Definitely a good counter measure. And his cannon ability is great for hit multiple targets for good damage or one target for 50. Plus his parrot drone is in every way better than the garlic drone. Parrot shoots better than garlic and eggsplosion is a much more practical version or the Corn bomb thing. It's quicker and does enough damage to kill someone without warning the targets that something here like the garlic drone does.

    I definitely don't think either class is weak, in fact they are potentially both the most capable of going on vanquish streaks for their respective sides. The captain is much more versatile though. Much much more. His shotgun is 100% good enough to wipe an approaching enemy. Whereas the cactus will struggle much more trying to shoot some of the up close zombies like an imp. Plants aren't special in how they jump or anything like zombies, so it's not like they're ability to evade really hinder a captains ability to hit it's target. Not nearly as much as some zombies can move, jump, and all that good jazz.
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    Anonymous
    10 years ago
     
    [Plants team is weak] (specially turk takeover + herbal assault offense)
    - pirate has shotgun+long range gun, but cactus only has long range gun.
    - pirate >(stronger than) cactus
    - cactus's drone is weaker than pirate's parrot. (parrot is small, agile, more health, and powerful airstrike)
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    Anonymous
    10 years ago

    Thank you. Maybe it's just me and I'm very close-minded about the versatility of Deadbeard's weapon. I tried using him as a traditional sniper and had no success, so that could be the reason I look at him as near useless. That being said, enjoy your solution badge thingy

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    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Get the zoom upgrade, and use it. When he headshots it does the same damage as his prepatch damage. 35... Also use the barrel to get up onto rooftops or higher ledges. When the barrel explodes he pops up, so explode it next to a rooftop and you can move on to it for a better/safer vantage point. Something a cactus can't do at all.
  • I greatly disagree with you.  Not that the cactus is bad, she's great, and she was the first character I maxed in both gw 1 and 2.  But lately I've been doing poorly with the cactus against captain deadbeards.  Not sharkbite or cannon, but regular deadbeards.  So I did some experimenting and found in great shock and dismay, and general outrage, that captain deadbeard is more accurate than every cactus variant except for petrified.  He has so much less reticle bloom that I couldn't believe it.  Now at first his crosshairs expanded at the same rate as the cactus's, but when it really counted his crosshair started getting smaller while the cactus's got almost as large a crosshair as the one when she wasn't aiming.  I should've known that was it.  Almost every time, I would land 3 shots and miss the fourth, giving my would be victim a chance to escape.  (I have the damage upgrade BTW, so it takes four crits to kill a soldier, engineer, pirate, or scientist). If it were up to me, neither would have any bloom at all, even if that mean't knocking off some damage.  In GW 1, the cactus had less reticle bloom and the only real competition were the super commandos and camo Rangers, and if you were still figuring out the cactus, some other foot soldier and scientist variants.  Now there's tons of more versatile, accurate and damaging competition against cacti that are in a game that favors offensive characters.  We can't have another chomper on the plant team.  Make the cactus more accurate.

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    Anonymous
    10 years ago
    Lol this was from March why did you argue with someone that was posting in march 🙂

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