Class Discussion: Torchwood & Hovergoat-3000
Since these 2 characters only exist in GW2 and have no alternate abilities, I decided to cover them both here. There was an alternate ability in the works for Torchwood, some kind of sprint ability t...
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@Iron_Guard8 Probably the most underappreciated characters in the shooters.
They nerfed wood chipper to be lower than all stars damage because the plants had all star but better for a while.
The wood chipper sound design is really good on Torchwood.
I'm don't hate blazing blast honestly its a super close range high dsmage ability and most Torchwoods can be baited into using it than being defenseless. If your getting killed by blazing blast maybe, idk dont let torchwood get that close.
I truly believe that Torchwood is a much better tank than citron. His weapon falls off at longer range but he will shred you at close range, his body,size allows him to block a large amount of damage, and leaf shield protects him but also slows him down making him vulnerable to zpgs. Compare this to citrons more assault/tank hybrid combo in 2 and even bfn.
Smoldering madness is a great ability as your speed is increased, you deal fire damage, can shoot infinitely, and no zombie can mistake that you're not in it. It's insanely useful in boss hunts and ops.
You actually deal less damage in smoldering madness btw.
Leaf shield is good but has its weaknesses and leaves Torchwood in a good or bad spot depending on how the player utilizes it.
2nd mastered character in gw2 so I've leaned back on him to play with other characters.
His downed state being a small log is nice.
The gingerbread house is my favorite outfit.
Hovergoat 3000 is insanely underrated and underappreciated.
He has decent health and a solid primary. His jumps are useful.
The damage buff is a great ability and if popcap really wanted to focus on support type characters in bfn than hovergoat should've replaced engineer and move him to defense. It's really nice to use with the deadbeard who's sniping in the back or soldiers on rooftops. He still had to be near his buff target so he is still in danger of reatilaition due to his bigger hitbox.
His laser allows him to still move unlike other turret modes but he drains battery and is weaker than solar beam. Its a solid ability.
Turbo is a great ability as he can pop it around teamates and have them take off without having to stay near him and he himself is not invincible like bfn arcane enigma. Imo its far better than any speed boost they tried to give us in bfn.
I think some people threw hovergoat under the bus for being a goat visually and it hurt people from seeing how good the character is actually designed unlike tv head or wildflower.
He is one of the better balanced character because he IS a better designed and balanced character.
I like the reindeer costume the most.
Really sad we didn't get these two in bfn as I feel there some of the better designed characters honestly and hovergoat is a far better support character than engineer or rose.
Really miss these two and I hope one day they return with variants, but if they want acorn to have variants I can see Torchwood being the mech like equivalent of a fire acorn.
I don't like torch and tail pack but I can see why people buy it due to the nowadays slow rotation of the mystery portal as it takes 200 to get all keys and 150 to get them, not bad back in the fast days of 2016 but not now with the rather unrewarding 5 star rewards per game.
I feel like scrapping hovergoat but moving his abilities to another zombie would be a waste of a new zombie.
Anyone who uses these 2 in boss hunt knows what there doing 100%.
They nerfed wood chipper to be lower than all stars damage because the plants had all star but better for a while.
The wood chipper sound design is really good on Torchwood.
I'm don't hate blazing blast honestly its a super close range high dsmage ability and most Torchwoods can be baited into using it than being defenseless. If your getting killed by blazing blast maybe, idk dont let torchwood get that close.
I truly believe that Torchwood is a much better tank than citron. His weapon falls off at longer range but he will shred you at close range, his body,size allows him to block a large amount of damage, and leaf shield protects him but also slows him down making him vulnerable to zpgs. Compare this to citrons more assault/tank hybrid combo in 2 and even bfn.
Smoldering madness is a great ability as your speed is increased, you deal fire damage, can shoot infinitely, and no zombie can mistake that you're not in it. It's insanely useful in boss hunts and ops.
You actually deal less damage in smoldering madness btw.
Leaf shield is good but has its weaknesses and leaves Torchwood in a good or bad spot depending on how the player utilizes it.
2nd mastered character in gw2 so I've leaned back on him to play with other characters.
His downed state being a small log is nice.
The gingerbread house is my favorite outfit.
Hovergoat 3000 is insanely underrated and underappreciated.
He has decent health and a solid primary. His jumps are useful.
The damage buff is a great ability and if popcap really wanted to focus on support type characters in bfn than hovergoat should've replaced engineer and move him to defense. It's really nice to use with the deadbeard who's sniping in the back or soldiers on rooftops. He still had to be near his buff target so he is still in danger of reatilaition due to his bigger hitbox.
His laser allows him to still move unlike other turret modes but he drains battery and is weaker than solar beam. Its a solid ability.
Turbo is a great ability as he can pop it around teamates and have them take off without having to stay near him and he himself is not invincible like bfn arcane enigma. Imo its far better than any speed boost they tried to give us in bfn.
I think some people threw hovergoat under the bus for being a goat visually and it hurt people from seeing how good the character is actually designed unlike tv head or wildflower.
He is one of the better balanced character because he IS a better designed and balanced character.
I like the reindeer costume the most.
Really sad we didn't get these two in bfn as I feel there some of the better designed characters honestly and hovergoat is a far better support character than engineer or rose.
Really miss these two and I hope one day they return with variants, but if they want acorn to have variants I can see Torchwood being the mech like equivalent of a fire acorn.
I don't like torch and tail pack but I can see why people buy it due to the nowadays slow rotation of the mystery portal as it takes 200 to get all keys and 150 to get them, not bad back in the fast days of 2016 but not now with the rather unrewarding 5 star rewards per game.
I feel like scrapping hovergoat but moving his abilities to another zombie would be a waste of a new zombie.
Anyone who uses these 2 in boss hunt knows what there doing 100%.
@stukapooka Agreed on all points. I use Torchwood more than Hovergoat, used him last night to get the epic quest 'Defeat a super boss wave' quest done, after having to do 4 or 5 Ops plant side to get it, bleah.
I'm doing the swarm characters last in this series. They are the only characters in any of the 3 games I actually dislike. I may not like some variants or changes to classes over the games, but the only ones I actively feel should not exist are TV Head and Wildflower. I don't like them as AI and like them even less as players.
@Iron_Guard8Yep Torchwood is great for ops even as an ai ally and is practically necessary for crazy if you dont have healers. Wierd how we never got solo play teams for the characters, kinda dissapointing. Selecting ops on crazy should guarantee a super boss wave, would make the quest easier.
I may not like every variant but at least i can see what they're trying to do with them like tank commander or disco chomper.
Tv head and wildflower though are completely reused character assests besides the respawn buckets rushed out as characters for the games death and they gave them melee for some reason to make them more interesting. Their ai is just annoying and they absolutely slaughter the already lacking pots of bfn and lets not forget how many other better spawnable ai were cut from bfn altogether.@stukapooka And that's my main issue with TV Head and Wildflower; they shoot as their main attack and not as a secondary, rare ability used by most AI to keep us from exploiting their melee focus. They destroy the turrets which worked well enough against the regular AI, but when swarmed with these guys, the bots/pots are just outclassed. I normally applaud PopCap for their creative characters and abilities across the PvZ universe, but these guys have got to go.
